PUBLIC AND THE LEGISLATORS AND
EMPLOYEES WE MUST LIMIT
NONESSENTIAL GATHER ENGINE HERE
TO SOCIAL DISTANCING GUIDELINES
AND COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE ORDERS
. THE SENATE HAS MADE NECESSARY
ADJUSTMENTS TO NORMAL PRACTICES
IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE PUBLIC
CONTINUES TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE
LEGISLATIVE PROCESS. WE'RE
HOLDING OUR COMMITTEE HEARINGS
HERE AND- STREET BUILDING AND
ASKED ALL MEMBERS. OF THE
COMMITTEE TO BE PRESENT IN ROOM
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED SO WE CAN
STOP THE CORPSMAN BEGAN OUR
HEARING. TO ALLOW PUBLIC ACCESS
WE HAVE A MINUTE MEMBERS OF THE
PUBLIC IN THE HEARING ROOM TO
THE EXTENT THE SOCIAL DISTANCING
REQUIREMENTS ALLOW IT WILL BE
USING THE TELECONFERENCE ORVIS
FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH
TO TESTIFY TODAY. FOR
INDIVIDUALS WISHING TO TESTIFY
ON PUBLIC COMMENT THE
PARTICIPANT TOLL FREE NUMBER AND
ACCESS CODE IS POSTED ON OUR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE. AND WILL BE
DISPLAYED THROUGHOUT THE SCHOOL
ADDED HEARING TODAY. AND I WILL
NOW ANNOUNCE IT TODAY'S
PARTICIPANT NUMBER IS EIGHT
SEVEN SEVEN. TWO TWO SIX. EIGHT
ONE SIX THREE. THAT'S.
877-226-8166 SIX THREE. AN
ACCESS CODE IS. SEVEN SIX TWO
TWO FOUR SIX TO. AT SEVEN SIX
TWO TWO. FOUR SIX TWO FOR
DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW THE
TELECOM CONSISTENT WORKS PLEASE
REFER TO THE SENATE. OR
COMMITTEE WEBSITE WHEN WE MOVED
TO PUBLIC COMMENT YOU WILL BE
PROMPTED BY THE MODERATOR TO-
PRESS ONE. THEN ZERO FOR SUPPORT
AND OPPOSITION PRESSES ONLY ONE
TIME AND WAIT PATIENTLY FOR AN
OPERATOR TO ASSIGN YOU A NUMBER
AND THIS CAN BE SURE WAIT ONCE
YOU RECEIVE YOUR NUMBER LINE YOU
WILL BE WITH YOU AWAITING QUEUE
FOR THE MODERATOR TO CALL YOUR
NUMBER. AT THAT TIME YOU WILL BE
ON MUTE IT AND YOU'RE NOW READY
TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE
KNOW THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO
HEAR YOU CLEARLY AND AVOID
ACOUSTIC FEEDBACK. YOU MUSTN'T
MUTE THE DEVICE THAT YOU'RE
WATCHING THE HEARING. ON PRIOR
TO GIVING TESTIMONY OVER THE
PHONE. IT IS IMPORTANT WE HEAR
FROM YOU AND WE THANK YOU FOR
YOUR PATIENCE. AND WE WILL DO
OUR BEST TO MAINTAIN. DECORUM AS
A CUSTOMARY. AN INDIVIDUAL
INDIVIDUAL WHO IS DISRUPTED MAY
BE REMOVED FROM THE ROAD MEETING
SERVICE AND HAVE. THEIR
CONNECTIONS- MUTED. SO WILL
BEGIN THE DAY WE HAVE EIGHT
BILLS ON- THE GENDER TODAY THREE
OF WHICH WERE ON CONSENT S. B.
NINE THREE SIX S. B. NINE EIGHT
ONE AND SB TWELVE SIXTY EIGHT.
BUT BEFORE WE HEAR ANY OF THE
BILLS WE MUST FIRST STOP TO
QUORUM. CONSULTING COUNCIL I
SHOULD SAY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. BRADFORD YOUR BRADFORD HERE A
CHOI BOGUE. CHOI BOGUE HERE COM
LONGER HERE COM LONGER HERE
SKINNER WIENER. WE HAVE QUORUM.
THERE IS A QUORUM PRESENT IN OUR
FIRST AUTHOR IS- I GUESS IS
MISTER HUESO WITH- AB NINE NINE
ZERO ZERO AYE SO. THANK YOU GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN MEMBERS. HI
MY PROJECT IN HERE. YEP I'M
PROUD PRESENT S. B. NINE NINETY
THIS IS A BILL THAT WILL ALLOW
PEOPLE ON PAROLE THE OPTION TO
TRANSFER FROM PRISON DIRECTLY TO
THE COUNTY WHERE A POST
SECONDARY. POST SECONDARY
EDUCATIONAL OR VOCATIONAL
TRAINING PROGRAM IS AVAILABLE.
SO RIGHT NOW IF YOU ARE OF YOU
FINISHED YOUR- OF PAYING YOUR
PRICE TO SOCIETY RELEASED- THE
LAW STATES THAT YOU ARE RELEASED
DIRECTLY TO THE COUNTY OF YOUR
LAST RESIDENTS THAT COULD HAVE
BEEN. SOME YEARS IN SOME CASES
IF YOU HAVE NO WHERE TO GO THERE
THERE'S A PROCESS TO PETITION
THE COURT TO MOVE WHERE YOU MAY
HAVE SOME FAITH OF FAMILY
SUPPORT MAYBE YOU'RE WHERE YOU
WORSE THE PEOPLE WHERE YOU LIVE
MOVE TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
BUT- THERE IS NO PROVISION THAT
ALLOWS YOU TO CHASE AN
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY I'VE
BEEN WORKING ON BILLS THAT HELP
OPEN UP EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES FOR INMATES. WHILE
THEY'RE DETAINED. AND WHAT
HAPPENS AFTER YOU GET OUT WITH
WE HAVE STORIES OF SOME INMATES
THEY GET ACCEPTED TO MAJOR
UNIVERSITIES IN CALIFORNIA THEY
CAN'T ATTEND THEM. BECAUSE
THEY'RE STUCK LIVING IN IN THE
COUNTIES. WHERE IS THERE LAST
RESIDENTS. AND THIS- REALLY
ELIMINATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
THEM TO GET A QUALITY EDUCATION
AND RE INTEGRATE INTO SOCIETY SO
THIS BILL IS DISCRETIONARY IT
WILL ALLOW. IT IN THOSE CASES
WHERE THERE IS AN EDUCATIONAL OR
VOCATIONAL OR EVEN A JOB
OPPORTUNITY OF SOMEBODY- WELL-
DOING THEIR- TIME. OF RECEIVED
ANY SPECIALIZED TRAINING AND
THEY GET A JOB OFFER SO MORE IN
A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY CAN- THE
FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT SUPPORT
THEMSELVES THAT THAT SHOULD BE
AN OPTION THAT'S CURRENTLY NOT
AVAILABLE SO THIS BILL. IS AN
ANTI RECIDIVISM BILL THAT ALL
TREATS PEOPLE. THE WAY THEY
SHOULD BE TREATED ONCE THEY HAVE
PAID THEIR DEBT TO SOCIETY THAT
THEY'RE ALLOWED TO REINTEGRATE
INTO THE COMMUNITY AND THIS WILL
PROVIDE THE DISCRETION. FOR OF.
FOR ROLETO FIND THAT THEY MADE
HAVE- THE OPPORTUNITY GO
SOMEWHERE SO THIS BASICALLY
MAKES THE LAW A LITTLE MORE
PRACTICAL FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS
FACING THOSE- SITUATION SO TODAY
WE HAVE SOME WITNESSES WOULD
LIKE TO TESTIFY. IN SUPPORT OF
THE BILL WE HAVE- ASIDE EIGHT.
ZERO ROBBIE IS AND- MICHELLE
MAXWELL OR BOTH WITH THE UC
BERKELEY UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS
PROGRAM. AND THEY'RE HERE TO
TESTIFY. I WILL GIVE YOUR
WITNESSES TWO MINUTES EACH AND
WE'LL START WITH. MISS ROBIN.
SHE'S COMING GOOD MORNING CAN
YOU ARE YOU LEARNING GAREA.
APRIL HONORABLE CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE MY NAME
IS ARGHA DAY THE ROBBIE AND I'M
THE DIRECTOR OF THE UNDERGROUND
SCHOLARS PROGRAM AT UC BERKELEY
WE'RE GOING UNDER THE STUDENTS
IN JAILS PRESIDENT COMMUNITY
COLLEGES AND THE UC SYSTEM EVERY
YEAR MORE THAN 90% OF THE
STUDENTS SUPPORT WITH THE UC
APPLICATION ARE OFFERED
ADMISSION INTO A UC. A FEW WEEKS
FROMNOW WILL CELEBRATE THIS
YEAR'S NEWLY ADMITTED STUDENTS
AS YOU CAN IMAGINE MOST OF OUR
STUDENTS ARE EXPERIENCING
FEELINGS OF HOPE ACCOMPLISHMENT
AND EXCITEMENT FOR THE FUTURE
HOWEVER FOR OUR STUDENTS ON
PAROLE THIS TIME CAN BE MARKED
BY UNCERTAINTY FEAR AND
HOPELESSNESS AND THEY TRY TO
pPROCESS. EVERY YEAR I HAVE TO
GET INVOLVED BY CONTACTING
PAROLE OFFICERS EMPLEADO TO
APPROVE PAROLE PAROLE TRANSFER
REQUEST IN A TIMELY MANNER STAR
STUDENTS CAN EXPECT THE
ADMISSIONS OFFERS THEY WORKED SO
HARD FOR AND ATTEND THE UC OF
THEIR CHOICE. I'VE WORKED WITH
DOZENS OF STUDENTS WHO WERE
DENIED PAROLE TRANSFERS FOR
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND
THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE AND MORE
SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WITH FAMILY
MEMBERS IN DIFFERENT COUNTIES WE
ALL KNOW THAT EMPLOYMENT
EDUCATION AND FAMILY
REUNIFICATION OUR CULTURE FOR
EXAMPLE RE ENTRY AND HAVE BEEN
PROVEN TO REDUCE RECIDIVISM THIS
BILL WOULD STREAMLINE THE PAROLE
TRANSFER PROCESS FOR PEOPLE IN
PRISON AND OUT ON PAROLE. SO
THAT THEY COULD BE SUCCESSFUL BY
HAVING ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY
THAN OTHER COUNTY THEY HAD
ALREADY TAKEN IMPORTANT STEPS TO
MAKE HIGHER EDUCATION MORE
ACCESSIBLE TO INCARCERATED AND
FORMERLY INCARCERATED STUDENTS
AND YOUR INVESTMENTS ARE WORKING
THERE ARE CURRENTLY OVER SEVEN
THOUSAND INCARCERATED STUDENTS
WHO ARE TAKING UC TRANSFERABLE
COURSES AND EACH YEAR WE WELCOME
MORE AND MORE FORMERLY
INCARCERATED STUDENTS ENTER THE
CALIPHATE AND YOU. SYSTEM THE
NUMBER OF STUDENTS IN HIGHER
EDUCATION ON PAROLE IS ALSO
INCREASING EVERY YEAR AND WILL
CONTINUE TO BUILD AND MAXIMIZE
THE IMPACT OF THE FUNDING AND
POLICIES BY MAKING SURE PEOPLE
ON PAROLE ARE NOT FACING.
UNREASONABLE BARRIERS TO ACTOR
COLLEGE EMPLOYEE OR HOW. THE
PUBLIC SAFETY BUT AND BILL ARE
CLEAR I URGE YOU TO VOTE AND THE
POOR OF AND NINE NINE. THANK YOU
. Q. OUR NEXT WITNESS IS SHOWN.
AND IS PRESENT SO. YOU'LL HAVE
TO MAKE. I WILL CHAIR MEMBERS OF
COMMITTEE MY IS MICHELLE MATH.
I'M A STUDENT USER BERKELEY AND
I WORK WITH THAT. SCHOLARS AS A
POLICY FELLOW AS THE CORNER OF
THE- SCHOLARS PRO. I FINISHED MY
COMMUNITY COURSES WHILE STILL
CURSOR. AND APPLY TO UC BERKELEY
WITH SUPPORT FROM A FRIEND WHO
WORKS AT ON THE UNDERGROUND
SCHOLARS. PRIOR TO PAROLE I WAS
INFORMED THAT I WOULD BE
TRAVELING TO SAN DIEGO WHICH WAS
A COUNTY THAT I'D ONLY BEEN TO
COMMIT A CRIME. I DO NOT YET
HAVE AN ACCEPTANCE LETTER TO UC
BERKELEY. BUT THE PRE PLANNING
PAROLE AGENT INSIDE THE FACILITY
FOUND AN ALTERNATIVE FOR ME. SO
THAT I CONTROLLED ALAMEDA COUNTY
WHILE WAITING AN ADMISSION
DECISION. WELL THE LIVING
SITUATION WAS NOT THE ONE I
WOULD HAVE PAROLE TO. HAD I HAD
THE LETTER. I WAS GIVEN ROOM TO
ACTIVELY PARTICIPATE MY
SUCCESSFUL REENTRY BY LOOKING
FOR A JOB IN THE AREA. BUILDING
RELATIONSHIPS AT UC BERKELEY AND
PREPARING FOR SCHOOL. WHICH IS
VERY IMPORTANT. THREE WEEKS
AFTER PAROLE I RECEIVE THE
ADMISSIONS DECISION FROM SCHOOL.
AND WHEN I WANTED TO MOVE CLOSER
TO CAMPUS IT WAS AUTHORIZED AT
THE AGENT LEVEL WITHOUT QUESTION
. MY EXPERIENCE TAUGHT ME THE
IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A PAROLE
OFFICER WHO IS SUPPORTIVE OF
MICHAEL'S AND HE WOULD HELP ME
REACH THEM. WHEN I BEGAN WORKING
WITH UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS I
LEARNED THAT OTHER STUDENTS HAD%
VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCES WITH
PAROLE OFFICERS. WHO DIDN'T
SUPPORT- TRANSFER REQUESTS WITH
NO REASON PROVIDED TO STUDENTS.
THIS BILL WOULD NOT ONLY MAKE
THIS TRANSFER PROCESS EASIER BUT
WOULD ALSOREQUIRE PAROLE
OFFICERS. TO ARTICULATE A
COMPELLING PUBLIC SAFETY REASON
FOR THE DENIAL. THIS WOULD
ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ON PAROLE
HAVE ACCESS TO EMPLOYMENT
EDUCATION AND HOUSING
OPPORTUNITIES IN OTHER COUNTIES
IN A CONSISTENT MANNER. MY
EXPERIENCE HIGHLIGHTS HOW A
PERSON CAN BE SUCCESSFUL IN RE
ENTRY AND BEYOND WHEN GIVEN THE
OPTION TO PURSUE POSITIVE
OPPORTUNITIES AND ON THE
COUNTIES. AND THE IMPORTANCE OF
SUPPORT FROM THE PRO
ENVIRONMENT. IT IS FOR THIS
REASON THAT I ASK FOR YOUR
SUPPORT ON SB NINE NINETEENTH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.
NOW IS THERE ANY OTHER WITNESSES
HERE IN TWENTY TWO HUNDRED WHO
WISH TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT. OF
SB. NINE NINETY. SO STATE YOUR
NAME AND ORGANIZATION. MY NAME
IS KEVIN MCCARTY I'M HERE ON
BEHALF UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS
INITIATIVE VIA UC BERKELEY I
PLAYED UC BERKELEY LAWS
INCARCERATED AND WAS ACCEPTED
THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF
CORRECTIONS AND REHABILITATION
WOULD NOT- GRAND MY TRANSFER
REQUEST ALAMEDA COUNTY. MY PRO
ASIAN ORANGE COUNTY WE JUST NEED
YOUR NAME AND YOUR LOCATION
RIGHT NOW YES SIR- OF YOU.
BERKELEY UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU APPRECIATE IT
HOW. YOU KNOW FURTHER WITNESSES
WERE NON OF THAT ARE- WE DO. HI
MY NAME IS ERIN MCCALL AND I AM
WITH UC BERKELEY UNDERGROUND
SCHOLARS. AND I SUPPORTED THANK
YOU. MY NAME IS MICHAEL GARCIA
I'M A VC BERKELEY UNDERGROUND
SCHOLARS AND I SUPPORT THIS
THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT HEARING OR
HEARING TO NONE MODERATOR WILL
GO TO PHONE LINES NOW ARE THERE
ANY WITNESSES WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN SUPPORT. OF SB NINE NINETY.
DUE TO BUY IN SUPPORT PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS
TIME. BILLION INDICATION YOU'VE
BEEN PLACED IN Q. AND THEN IN
EIGHTEEN T. SPECIALIST WILL
PROVIDE YOU WITH YOUR LIFE
NUMBER. WE WILL OPEN UP YOUR
LINES WANTED TIME. THE FIRST
BOTTOM LINE THIRTEEN GO AHEAD
PLEASE. WHAT WOULD CALDWELL
HOUSTON FROM THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT THANK YOU CLICK HERE.
THANKS FOR BOTTOM LINE SIXTEEN
GO AHEAD. HI THIS IS DARBY
KERNAN ON BEHALF OF THE ROBERT
ENTERPRISE DEVELOPMENT FUND READ
F. TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT THANK
YOU. LINE. TWENTY NINE. THE
CEREMONY ON BEHALF OF INITIATE
JUSTICE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
BY. TWENTY SEVEN. I REALLY KNOW
WHAT THE NEW WAY OF LIFE AND WE
ARE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF SB NINE
NINE. THANK YOU. LINE. TWENTY
THREE. HELLO BY TWENTY THREE GO
AHEAD PLEASE. JENNIFER GARNER
PUT UNDERGROUND DOLLARS
ENGINEERS AT UC SAN DIEGO IN
SUPPORT AND SB NINETY THANK YOU
. BY TWENTY FIVE HI THIS IS
STEPHANIE DESOLATE ALL OF THE
COMMAND ORANGE COUNTY IN SUPPORT
. LINE. TWENTY FOUR. IT IS NOT
WORKING WITH SB JUSTICE GROUPS
AND SUPPORT. WE HAVE ONE MORE
LINE ONE MOMENT WHILE WE SIGN
THE LINE EVER FIND TWENTY TWO GO
AHEAD PLEASE. YOUR MEMBERS NICK
WRONGLY OF THE HALF OF THE
MICHELSON CENTER FOR PUBLIC
POLICY IN SUPPORT. IN THE FUTURE
WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE IN QUEUE AT
THIS TIME. THANK YOU AND NOW
WILL MOVE TO OPPOSITION WE HAVE
NO FORMAL OPPOSITION LISTED.
ISER ANYONE HERE IN ROOM- TWENTY
TWO HUNDRED WHO WISH TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION AT THREE NINE
NINETY. HEARING SEEN NONE.
MODERATE WILL GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES DOWN AND SEE IF THERE'S
ANY WITNESSES WISHING TO TESTIFY
IN OPPOSITION OF SB NINE NINETY
. THIS WEEK IN OPPOSITION PLEASE
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. MISTER CHAIRMAN WE HAVE KNOWN
QUEUING UP AT THIS TIME GREAT
WE'LL BRING YOU BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE AS ARE ANY QUESTIONS
OR CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO SB
NINE NINETY CENTER SCANNER.
THANK YOU- MISTER CHAIR AND- SIR
HUESO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING
THIS BILL BEFORE US- WHILE I WAS
THE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY
BUDGET COMMITTEE WE HEARD AND
TEST MANY VARIOUS TIMES ABOUT
PEOPLE'S DIFFICULTY THAT. THEY
WOULD BE BECAUSE OF THE WAY OR
PAROLE WILL RULES ARE SET UP
THEY HAD TO BE RELEASED WHERE IN
THE COUNTY THAT THEY WERE
CONVICTED AND VERY OFTEN WHERE
THEY WOULD HAVE. A THE JOB
OPPORTUNITY- HOUSING OPPORTUNITY
WAS IN THE COUNTY WHERE THEY
WERE FROM AND BUT THEY COULDN'T
ACCESS THAT WHICH OF COURSE
REALLY AFFECTED THEIR SUCCESSFUL
REENTRY. SO IN IT I THINK IN THE
THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING WE
PROBABLY SHOULD FIX THIS A WHILE
AGO BUT I'M VERY GLAD YOU
BROUGHT IT FORWARD. AND I'M
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL. THANK
YOU ANY FOR QUESTIONS CONCERNS-
TO ABOVE. I REQUEST- SO I READ
HERE THAT- WHEN IT COMES TO THE
SYSTEM CURRENTLY IN PLACE. ALL
OF THIS IS ALREADY TAKING INTO
CONSIDERATION IN WITH THE
CURRENT SYSTEM BUT IT DOES TAKE
A LITTLE LONGER- IS THERE A WAY
THAT. IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM WE
CAN HAVE THE INPUT OF THE
INMATES I'M I'M SURPRISED WE
DON'T HAVE THE INPUT OF THE
INMATES IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM AT
ALL. AND I AM TOO AND WHEN I SAW
THE WAY THINGS WORK RELATED
RELATIONS TO. RELOCATING INMATES
TO THE BEST PLACE FOR THEM TO
SUCCEED AND SAW. THAT THIS WAS
AN OBSTACLE I THOUGHT MAYBE WE
CAN DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT
BETTER. QUALIFIED IT MORE OF A
DIALOGUE IN THIS PROCESS. SO
THIS IS SO THERE IS THE WITNESS
TODAY THAT SPOKE. THE SECOND
WITNESS WITH THERE WAS ACTUALLY
A SCHOLAR SHE WAS ABLE TO GET IN
TO WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM SO.
IS IT JUST TAKING IN YOUR- IN
YOUR OPINION THE REASON YOU'RE
FEARFUL FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH
THIS PARTICULAR BILL IS IT
BECAUSE YOU FEEL IT IT'S TAKING
TOO LONG. FOR PEOPLE FOR THE-
PAROLE BOARDS TO ACTUALLY MAKE A
DECISION OR BECAUSE IT IT
DOESN'T. ALLOW FOR THE VOICE OF
THE INMATES HE HAD IN PART
BECAUSE YOUR CURRENT BILL WOULD
COMPLETE THE THAT THEY
COMPLETELY TAKE AWAY THE
DISCRETION OF THE BOARD AND JUST
GIVE THE SOLE DISCRETION TO THE-
I THINK- THERE IS. UNDER UNDER
THE CURRENT LAW IT'S IS PRETTY
STRICT IN TERMS OF WHETHER THEY
CAN BE LOCATED AND- SO. WHERE
WE'RE AT LEAST INJECTING A
LITTLE MORE DISCRETION FOR THE
PROCESS. YOU'RE ADDING A LITTLE
MORE DISCRETION BUT BY INCLUDING
THE VOICES OF THE EARLY WHICH
YOU FEEL THAT THE CURRENT SYSTEM
DOESN'T ALLOW FOR RIGHT OKAY SO
THE OTHER CONCERNED THAT I MAY
HAVE IS THAT. ALTHOUGH I
UNDERSTAND THE EDUCATIONAL
COMPONENT OF IT IN THE
IMPORTANCE OF HAVING- THE
ABILITY FOR OUR INMATES TO HAVE
A VOICE AS TO WHERE THEY WOULD
LIKE TO GO TO SCHOOL. WE DO HAVE
CAL STATES UC'S AND ASKING
COLLEGE THROUGHOUT THE STATE
WHICH I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL
UNIQUELY. WONDERFUL SO MY
CONCERN WOULD BE MORE ON THE
HOUSING COMPONENT OF IT- THE
FAMILY COMPONENT OF IT YEAH AS
FAR AS THE DISCRETION OF THE
INMATE HAVING INPUT IN THERE- IN
THE SENSE THAT. DO YOU HAVE IN
PLACE- A SYSTEM WHERE IT SHOWS
PROOF THAT THEY WILL HAVE
GUARANTEED HOUSING OR FAMILY
MEMBER THAT WILL SPONSOR THEM-
IN THIS IN IN IN THE SYSTEM
BECAUSE- THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE
AND I THINK I'VE HEARD EXPRESSED
IS THAT. THEY WOULD BE CERTAIN
COUNTIES THAT WOULD BE
DISPROPORTIONATELY- WHAT'S THE
WORD- LIKE YOU USE FORCE HIM OUT
OF OVER CONCENTRATED YES YES
EXACTLY ACTUALLY IF IT'S A
UNIVERSITY TOWN WELL THAT THE
UNIVERSITY BECAUSE I COMMEND
ANYONE THAT HAS THE ABILITY TO
GET INTO- YOU KNOW HIGHER
EDUCATION AND PUTS IN THE EFFORT
ON THAT END SO I'M NOT VERY
CONCERNED ABOUT THAT COMPONENT
BUT MORE WITHIN IT WHEN IT COMES
TO THE HOUSING COMPONENT. AB THE
WORK COMPONENT- AND I THINK MY
NUMBER ONE PRIORITY WOULD
PROBABLY THE HOUSING BECAUSE I
THINK THAT'S WHERE AB. AREAS
SUCH AS SEARCH COUNTIES THAT ARE
STILL GROWING WE HAVE THE
CAPACITY TO PROVIDE THAT HOUSING
OUT BECAUSE IT'S STILL BUILDING.
I PER SE BUT I THAT'S THE THAT'S
THE AREA THAT I NOT SURE WHETHER
OR NOT YOU'VE YOU FOLKS HAVE
CONSIDERED A CAP OF HOW MANY.
INMATES GO OR PAROLEE'S GO INTO
THESE AREAS ARE NOT NECESSARILY
FOR SCHOOL BUT- FOR HOUSING OR
FAMILY- MEMBERS- BECAUSE I ATE.
IT I COULD SEE THAT BEING A
PROBLEM FOR MANY COUNTIES IN A
CONCERN FOR MANY COUNTIES. IN
BEING DISPROPORTIONATELY. AB CAN
A GUIDED TO THOSE AREAS SO HAVE
YOU CONSIDERED THAT COMPONENT IN
YOUR BILL NOTHING IN MY BILL
CHANGES EVALUATION PROCESS SO.
AS THEY APPLY. TO SEE- EITHER
THE JOB OR- TRAINING PROGRAM FOR
A UNIVERSITY ALL ALL THAT
PROCESS IS VERIFIED TO MAKE SURE
THAT. ALL THE CLAIMS THAT THEY
ARE MAKING ARE TRUE AND ALL THE-
US. SUPPORT IS THERE- WHEN THEY
WHEN THEY LEAVE SO THAT THAT IS.
PART OF THE PROCESS IT DOESN'T-
THIS BILL DOESN'T UNDERMINE- THE
PAROLE OFFICE TO LOOK AT THEIR
EVEN THEIR DANGER TO A CERTAIN
COMMUNITY IF THAT- IT RISK
EXISTS- IF IT DOESN'T- VENT THEM
FROM DENYING A REQUEST SO IT
SIMPLY LOOKING AT AN OPPORTUNITY
SAYING OKAY WE THIS LAW WILL
PROVIDE US. THE OPPORTUNITY TO
REVIEW THIS AND- LOOK AT ALL THE
INFORMATION THAT'S BEFORE US AND
REQUIRE THEM TO GIVE IF FOR SOME
REASON THERE TONIGHT AT LEAST-
THE WHY. WOULD BE DENIED AS WELL
I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO
THE CURRENT SYSTEM IN YOUR
OPINION DOESN'T ALLOW FOR THAT
DOESN'T DO THAT. INTERESTING
OKAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU ANY
FURTHER QUESTIONS ARE REGARDING
THIS ISSUE. WELL SIR WHAT
SHERMAN THANK YOU FOR WHAT I
THINK IS A COMMON SENSE MEASURE
THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE NO
OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL MEANS
THAT YOU'VE- RUN THE DROPS AND
TALK TO ALL OF THE RIGHT FOLKS-
TO GIVE FOLKS TO. AGREEMENT
THAT- EDUCATION OPPORTUNITIES
SHOULD BE AFFORDED TO OUR FROM
INCARCERATED AND AS YOU STATED
IN YOUR PRESENTATION. JUST
BECAUSE YOU'RE INCARCERATED IN
THE COUNTY DOESN'T MEAN THAT'S
WHERE YOUR HOME IS AND YOU HAVE
RESOURCES WERE. HE MIGHT BE
BETTER. SUITED TO SUCCEED HERE
WITH EDUCATION ON THE JOB- WOULD
HOUSING GO. I AM TRULY
SUPPORTERS MEASURE IN AT THIS
POINT- FOR YOU OPPORTUNITY CLOSE
. THANK YOU OF LOS- THIS IS.
THIS PROCESS NEEDS TO BE
IMPROVED THERE'S PLENTY OF
EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT MANY
PEOPLE WHO HAVE. RECEIVE
ADMISSION TO UNIVERSITIES AND
EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS COULD NOT
ATTEND THEM AND HOPEFULLY THIS
BILL CORRECT THAT. AS FOR YOUR
AYE BUT TODAY. THANK YOU WE HAVE
A MOTION BY SENATORS SKINNER WE
HAVE A TO PASS THE FIRST
REFERRED TO APPROPRIATIONS
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON SB NINE
NINETY SB NINE NINETY DO PASTOR
APPROPRIATIONS BRADFORD ON RED
FOR DIETRO BOKE JOBO NOT BOWING
VOTING COM LONGER SKINNER
SKINNER I WINNER. WINNER I. THEY
HAVE THREE VOTES YOU WILL LOSE
THE ROLE LOOKING FOR ABSENT
MEMBERS OF THAT YEAR MEASURE IS
OUT. THANK YOU- MEMBERS LET'S
ADDRESS OUR CONCERN GALLAGHER AT
THIS TIME WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON
CONSENT WE HAVE S. B. NINE THREE
SIX THREE NINE EIGHT ONE S. B.
TWELVE SIXTY EIGHT CAN I GET A
MOTION FOR THE CONSENT CALENDAR
. IT'S BEEN MOVED IMPROPER
UNMOVED BY- SENATOR WIENER ON
OUR CONSENT CALENDAR- COME TO
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON OUR
CONCERN CAL CONSENT CALENDAR
BRADFORD HI BRADFORD AYE CHOI
BOGUE. HI THE TROUBLE GUY COME
LONGER SKINNER. LIFE SKINNER I
WINNER WINNER I. SINCE KILLER
HAS FOUR VOTES WILL LEAVE THE
ROLE OF HIM FOR MEMBER NOW WILL
MOVE ON TO. OUR NEXT AUTHOR-
FILE ITEM FOR S. B. TEN EIGHTY
ONE BY SENATOR RUBIO. YOU MAY
BEGIN. GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE TODAY
I'M HERE TO PRESENT AS P. TEN
EIGHTY ONE A BILL THAT MAKES THE
TECHNICAL COMMONSENSE CHANGES TO
CURRENT LAW BY GIVING VICTIMS OF
REVENGE PORN THE ABILITY TO SEEK
JUSTICE WHEN THEIR PRIVATE.
IMAGES ARE DIED DISTRIBUTED AND
ALSO DISPLAYED AND THEIR PRIVACY
IS VIOLATED I WANT TO THANK THE
CHAIR ON THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS
FOR WORKING WITH ME ON SOME OF
THE AMENDMENTS. I WILL START BY
SAYING THAT I WILL BE ACCEPTING
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS
SUGGESTED AT THE BOTTOM OF PAGE
SIX OF THE ANALYSIS. UNDER
EXISTING LAW THE CRIME OF
REVENGE PORN CAN ONLY BE
PROSECUTED WHEN A PERSON
INTENTIONALLY DISTRIBUTES THE
PRIVATE IMAGES OF IT INTO MY
BODY PARTS. OF AN IDENTIFIABLE
PERSON UNFORTUNATELY THE WORD
DISTRIBUTES LIMIT SITUATIONS IN
WHICH AN INDIVIDUAL MAY USE-
PICTURES FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION
THIS PLACE THEM FOR THIS. SITE
DISPLAYS THEM VERSUS DISTRIBUTES
THE IMAGES IT HAPPENS FOR
EXAMPLE IN ONE COUNTY THE
PERPETRATOR OUT SHE TOOK THE
PICTURES BLEW THEM UP AND THEN
DROVE AROUND TOWN TO EMBARRASS
THE INDIVIDUAL AND THAT DOESN'T
FALL UNDER THAT DISPLAYED. A
DEFINITION. CALIFORNIA IS ONE OF
FORTY SIX STATES THAT HOUSE THIS
PROTECTION IN PLACE PROHIBITING
THIS TYPE OF CONDUCT THIS IS
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT FOR VICTIMS
THIS MEASURE ENSURES THAT
VICTIMS ARE PROTECTED AND
THEY'RE ABLE TO SEEK JUSTICE IF
THEIR PRIVACY WAS VIOLATED. I
WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ALTHOUGH
IT IS NOT RATE. MANY VICTIMS
HAVE DESCRIBED THE FIFTEEN ASKED
IF THEY WERE RAPED. THIS IS SUCH
A PERSONAL INTIMATE VIOLATION OF
SOMEONE'S BODY. THIS IS SUCH A
TRAUMATIZING EXPERIENCE AND
SOMETIMES IT'S LONG LASTING. AND
VICTIMS MAY NEVER RECOVER. AS
EVIDENCED BY THE CONSTANT
HEADLINES OF SOME OF OUR YOUTH
COMMITTING SUICIDE AFTER NAKED
IMAGES WERE DISPLAYED. IN A
MOMENT YOU WILL HEAR FROM OUR
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT WHO WILL
BRIEFLY DESCRIBE CONCRETE
EXAMPLES OF THIS UNDER WHICH
CASE THE VICTIM WAS UNABLE TO
SEEK JUSTICE DUE TO THE
LIMITATION. OF CURRENT LAW. IF I
MAY I WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME MY
TWO WITNESSES ERICA. GONZALEZ
FROM TULARE COUNTY DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY AS WELL AS
MAKE HOLDMAN FORMER SHASTA
COUNTY DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY.
KERN RIVERSIDE COUNTY DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY. YOUR
WITNESSES WILL HAVE TO MINUTES
EACH FOR TOTAL FOR MOMENT
MANAGEMENT SO WE'LL START WITH A
MISSED GONZALEZ IS IT YOUR FIRST
WITNESS FOR. I MISS HOLDEN.
SENATOR WHICH ONE IS YOUR LEAD
WITNESS- I HAVE TO WE'LL START
WITH ERICA GONZALEZ. MISS
GONZALEZ ON. YES A GOOD
AFTERNOON HERE IN MEMBERS- MY
NAME IS ERICA DOLLARS MISTER
PROVIDING DEPUTY DISTRICT
ATTORNEY WITH THE TERRY COUNTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND A
MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT OF SB TEN EIGHTY ONE
THIS BILL MAKES A TECHNICAL
CHANGE AT A COMMONSENSE CHANGES
TO THE CURRENT LAW GIVES VICTIMS
OF REVENGE PORN THE ABILITY TO
SEEK JUSTICE WHEN THEIR PRIVACY
IS VIOLATED. UNDER EXISTING LAW
CRIME OF REVENGE PORN CAN ONLY
BE PROSECUTED WHEN THEY
PERSONALLY AND WHEN A PERSON
INTENTIONALLY DISTRIBUTES THE
IMAGE OF AN INTIMATE BODY PART
OR PARTS OF ANOTHER IDENTIFIABLE
PERSON UNDER CERTAIN
CIRCUMSTANCES IN WHICH THE
PERSON'S AGREE OR UNDERSTAND.
THAT THE IMAGE SHALL REMAIN
PRIVATE. THE JUST. LIVE
SITUATION IN WHICH AND OF.
MAKING THE THIS TYPE OF UNLAWFUL
. IT LIMITS IT TO- IN SITUATIONS
WHERE- CHOIRS DISTRIBUTION- SAID
TO CONDUCT SUCH AS DISPLAY AND
PRIVATE IMAGE FOR ALL TO SEE AND
THIS CAN BE DONE BY DISPLAYING
THE ON A CROCK OR IN FRONT OF A
PERSON'S HOME. OR EVEN PUTTING
IT ON A POSTER FOR ALL TO SEE.
ALL OF THESE ACTIONS DO NOT
CONSTITUTE DISTRIBUTION AND
WOULD NOT BE A VIOLATION UNDER
OUR EXISTING LAW. THIS BILL WITH
ALSO PROVIDE A DEFINITION FOR
IDENTIFIABLE PERSON THAT IS
CONSISTENT WITHOTHER
INTENTIONAL VIOLATION OF PRIVACY
CRIMES. LAST YEAR THIS COMMITTEE
PASSED THE BILL MAKING A
TECHNICAL CHANGE TO THE EXISTING
REVENGE PORN LAW THAT EXTENDED
THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR
PROSECUTION OF THIS CRIME THE
DATA COVERAGE AND IN DOING SO
THE PROSECUTION OF THIS CRIME
SIMILAR TO OTHER INTENTIONAL
VIOLATION OF PRIVACY CRIMES.
WILL CONTINUES ON LAST YEAR'S
PROGRESS IN IMPROVING
CALIFORNIA'S REVENGE PORN LAWS
THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH OTHER
INTENTIONAL VIOLATION OF PRIVACY. CRIMES IN CALIFORNIA. PRIVATE
FITTING ROOMS OR USING A
CONCEALED CAMERA TO PHOTOGRAPH A
PERSON'S BODY OR UNDERGARMENTS
THIS BILL MAKES COMMONSENSE
CHANGES THAT ARE NEEDED TO
PROTECT. OF REVENGE PORN ON
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA DISTRICT
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION WE ASK
THAT YOU STAND WITH VICTIMS OF
REVENGE PORN AND SUPPORT THIS
BILL THANK YOU. THANK YOU OUR
NEXT WITNESS FLOWS. FIVE CAN YOU
HEAR ME. HI MY NAME IS MIKE
HOFFMAN I AM CURRENTLY A DEPUTY
DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND RIVERSIDE
AND FORMALLY. AFTER ALMOST THREE
YEARS AGO A MAN AND A WOMAN AND
IF THE RELATIONSHIP LESS THAN A
YEAR AGO THAT MAN IN LARGE TO
NUDE PHOTOS OF THE WOMAN PLACE
THEM ON THE SIDE OF THE TRUCK
AND DROVE AROUND TOWN FOR A
WEEK. THE WOMAN BECAME AWARE OF
THOSE PHOTOS WHEN HE DROVE HER
PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT AS SOMEONE
THAT SHE WORKED WITH RECOGNIZED
HER. ONLY WHEN DIRECTED BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO REMOVE THE PHOTOS
AT THE MANHATTAN DOWN. THE HEARD
IN HUMILIATION OF THE WOMAN
SUFFERED IS UNFATHOMABLE AND HER
CO WORKER WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
SEE THOSE IMAGES. FURTHERMORE
COUNTLESS PEOPLE ALL OVER SHASTA
COUNTY ADULTS AND CHILDREN ALIKE
HAVE SEEN OF WOMAN MAKE IT AND
WHY. BECAUSE SHE HAD THE
AUDACITY TO FINALLY START DATING
SOMEONE NEW TWO YEARS AFTER
THEIR BREAK UP. THE WOMAN WAS ON
A TO RECEIVE ANY AMOUNT OF JOB
THAT'S BECAUSE OUR CURRENT
SYSTEM ONLY ACTUALLY ALLOWED
BEHAVIOR. THE CURRENT LANGUAGE
OF THE REVENGE PORN STATUTE ONLY
PROHIBITS DISTRIBUTION PURPOSES
OF HURTING THE PERSON THE
TICKET. DISTRIBUTION HAS A VERY
SPECIFIC DEFINITION THAT
ESSENTIALLY REQUIRES THE
TRANSFER OF POSSESSION TANGIBLY
OR VIRTUALLY. CLAP DURING A NUDE
PHOTO ON THE FLIGHT OF ONE
VEHICLE IT'S NOT DISTRIBUTION
UNDER THE LAW. THE NEW REVENGE
PORN. WHAT IF I A BETTER ALL
AGES. YOU FOR TWENTY SIX ARE NO
LESS. OF UNDERSTANDING RIGHT
FROM WRONG AND SOMEONE OVER
TWENTY BACK. AND TYPICALLY
OFFENDER FALL WITHIN THAT AGE
RANGE. AT THE TWENTY FIVE YEAR
OLD MYSELF I WOULD FALL UNDER
THE UMBRELLA OF YOUTHFUL
OFFENDER. I UNDERSTAND THE
POTENTIAL LIFELONG CONSEQUENCES
THAT SHARING INTIMATE PHOTOS CAN
HAVE ON SOMEONE OUT IN BURTON
LEE AN EIGHTEEN YEAR OLD. NOT IN
THE STATE IMMATURITY HORROR BAD
DECISIONS STEMMING FROM ANGER OR
SOME OTHER EMOTION. IT CAN
AFFECT YOUR VINDICTIVE NOTHING
HAVE NO PLACE IN OUR SOCIETY.
VICTIMS RECEIVE NO LESS
PROTECTION FROM A NINETEEN YEAR
OLD SHARING THEIR PRIVATE PHOTOS
AND FROM A FORTY IVE REAL DOING
THE SAME. WHEN YOU SHARED
INTIMATE PHOTOS WITHOUT CONSENT
YOU'RE VIOLATING TRUST PRIVATELY
IN BASIC HUMAN DECENCY. AND THE
LONG RUN YOU CAN HIDE YOUR
FORMER PARTNER TO LOSE OUT ON.
OPPORTUNITIES THE JACKSON TO A
LIFETIME OF RIDICULOUS. THAT
THAT'S NOT GOING TO WHATEVER
SERVICE ONLINE OR DURING A
BACKGROUND CHECK. WHEN YOU GET
ANGRY AND CERTIFIED THE PHOTO IF
YOU CONVERT YOUR ACTUAL JUSTICE
ACT TO A VICTIM OF THE MOTIONAL
AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE. IF
VOTED FOR YOUR EYES IN YOUR EYES
ONLY. WHEN YOU WHEN YOUR PARTNER
HAPPY. THE CHILDREN A FRIEND
FAMILY AND EVEN THE WORK. NOW
THAT YOU'RE NOT HAPPY CALL. IT'S
AN ACTIVE. TO BE. THEREFORE I
RESPECTFULLY THAT VOTE IN. OF
HENNY ONE THE PROVIDER EVER PORN
THE PROTECTION THAT THEY NEED
AND- THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE
THERE ANY WITNESSES HERE AND-
ROOM TWENTY TWO HUNDRED WHICH
TESTIFIED IN SUPPORT OF AS TEN
EIGHTY ONE. GOOD MORNING MR
CHAIRMAN BERZINS CHAU MUTCHLER
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION AND
pADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE IN THE
ROOM- INTO A NON MODERATOR ABOUT
TO THE PHONE LINES INTO IF
THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF SB TEN
EIGHTY ONE. YOU TESTIFIED IN
SUPPORT PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE WILL FIRST
GO TO LINE THIRTY SEVEN GO AHEAD
. THANK YOU DON'T DON'T ADVOCACY
ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT TO BANKING DOCTOR THE
DOCTOR'S OFFICE AND THE
COMMITTEE STAFF. THANK YOU
ACCORDANCE. BY IN THIRTY EIGHT.
WEDBUSH. BY THIRTY EIGHT YOUR
LINE IS OPEN GO AHEAD. NINE
THIRTY EIGHT HAS TAKEN
THEMSELVES OUT OF Q. WE HAVE NO
ONE ELSE IN QUEUE AT THIS TIME.
GREAT NOW WILL MOVE TO
OPPOSITION- WE HAVE TO LEAD
WITNESSES- LISA CALL WILL HE
STERN AND L. RICHARD ROCHER. I
WILL AFFORD YOU TWO MINUTES EACH
AND- MISUSED IF YOU'RE PREPARED
YOU CAN BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY.
THANK YOU GOOD MORNING CHAIR AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS I WILL BE VERY
BRIEF AND WOULD LIKE TO
RELINQUISH THE REST OF MY TIME
IF THERE IS SOME DAMAGE ABOUT
YOUR MY NAME IS LESLIE CALDWELL
HOUSTON AND I'M TESTIFYING ON
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION I'M ALSO A
RETIRED CHIEF DEFENDER OF THE
SOLANO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.
WELL WE THINK THE OFFER FOR
AUTHORED FOR THE AMENDMENTS WE
RESPECTFULLY CONTINUE TO OPPOSE
THIS BILL WE'RE SYMPATHETIC TO
THE ISSUES THAT SB TEN AB ONE
SIX TO ADDRESS BUT WE ARE DEEPLY
CONCERNED ABOUT HOW IT WOULD
AFFECT YOUNG PEOPLE FROM MINORS
THE PEOPLE UNDER THE AGE OF
TWENTY SIX THE PUBLIC DEFENDER
FROM CALIFORNIA REPRESENT THE
VAST MAJORITY OF JUVENILES IN
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
WE'RE ACUTELY AWARE OF HOW
IMPETUOUS IRRATIONAL AND
SUSCEPTIBLE TO PEER PRESSURE.
THESE MINORS AND YOUNG PEOPLE
ARE WE KNOW FROM SCIENTIFIC
ADVANCES IN UNDERSTANDING THE
DEVELOPMENT OF THE BRAIN THE
MINERS WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE UP TO
THE AGE OF TWENTY SIX DO NOT
HAVE FULLY DEVELOPED BRAINS
DETERRING YOU FROM SEXUAL
CONTENT OUR ACTIONS SHOULD NOT
BE LEFT TO THE JUVENILE AND
CRIMINAL LAW I'M SORRY. CRIMINAL
JUSTICE. I EIGHT EIGHT THIRTEEN
AND THEN. AGED THAT EACH AND
VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION. GOT
CAUGHT UP IN THIS VERY STUPID
UNBELIEVABLY RIDICULOUS
BEHAVIOR. EACH SUFFERED SERIOUS
CONSEQUENCES BUT SHOULD NOT BE
INVOLVED IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM. THE ISSUE THE BILL
ATTEMPTS TO ADDRESS TO BETTER
FOCUS ON THE EDUCATION SYSTEM
THIS IS NOT AN EASY FIX. WHAT IS
THE APPROPRIATE APPROACH WITH
YOUNG MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITIES
THANK YOU WE REQUEST YOUR
NOTEBOOK. THANK YOU NEXT WITNESS. YES HONORABLE CHAIR OF THE
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE AND
COMMITTEE MEMBERS MY NAME IS
RICHARD BROKER HELLO ATTORNEY
AND A MEMBER OF THE PACIFIC
JUVENILE DEFENDER CENTER BOARD
AND ITS COMMITTEES YEAH AMIGAS
COMMITTEE. I THINK THE
ACHIEVEMENT. CENTER OPPOSES SB
TEN EIGHTY ONE IN LAST IT IS
AMENDED TO EXCLUDE YOU. THIS
OFFENSE IS A CRAP FOR YEARS OR
NOT YEAH EURO LOGICALLY. OR
DEVELOPED. MATURE AND IT WILL
NOW HAVE TO TURN THE FACT OUR
LEGISLATURE BEEN KNOWLEDGE WITH
THE STATES AND THE CALIFORNIA
SUPREME COURT HAVE. HELD IN CASE
AFTER CASE THAT IS WHAT EVERY
PARENT KNOWS YOU ARE
NEUROLOGICALLY AND
DEVELOPMENTALLY DIFFERENT FROM
ADULT WHEN IT COMES TO ATTEND
IT. FOR EXAMPLE IN TWENTY
EIGHTEEN THE LEGISLATURE PASSED
THE ASSEMBLY BILL THIRTEEN OH
ONE EXCUSE ME THIRTEEN OH EIGHT
RAISING THE AGE OR DO YOU YOUR
CALL CENTER TOLL ELIGIBILITY TO
TWENTY FIVE. ASSEMBLY PERSON
MARK STONE THE AUTHORED THE BILL
STATED SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE ON
ADOLESCENT AND YOUNG ADULT
DEVELOPMENT AND NEUROSCIENCE
CHAU QUICK CERTAIN AREAS OF THE
BRAIN PARTICULARLY THOSE
AFFECTING JUDGMENT AND DECISION
MAKING DO NOT DEVELOP UNTIL THE
EARLY TO MID TWENTIES. RESEARCH
HAS SHOWN THAT THE PREFRONTAL
CORTEX DOESN'T HAVE NEARLY THE
FUNCTIONAL CAPACITY AT AGE.
EIGHTEEN THOUSAND TWENTY FIVE.
THE PRE FROM CORTEX IS WERE. FOR
ADDRESS OF IMPORTANT FUNCTION OF
THE BRAIN INCLUDING ATTENTION
COMPLEX PLANNING DECISION MAKING
IMPULSE MANAGEMENT IN SHORT TERM
MEMORY. THESE ARE FUNCTIONS ARE
HIGHLY RELEVANT TO CRIMINAL
BEHAVIOR AND CULPABILITY THAT
WAS MARK STONE ASSEMBLY MEMBER
MARK STONE IN TWENTY SEVENTEEN
NOW. WITHOUT QUESTION THE KIND
OF CONDUCT SB TEN EIGHTY ONE
SIXTY TWO A CURRENT POLISH IS
MOST OFTEN ENGAGE STAND BY YOU.
ETHOLOGICAL ALREADY KNOWS YOU
INCLUDING YOUNG ADULTS UNDER THE
AGE OF TWENTY SIX CORN PETULANCE
LACKING JUDGMENT IN CAREFUL
REFLECTION. AND SUSCEPTIBLE TO
PEER PRESSURE. THIS IS NOT
GIVING YOU A PASS AS SOME AS
SOME WILL ASSERT IT IS A
RECOGNITION THAT WHILE
CRIMINALIZING. AND PUNISHING
BEHAVIOR MAY FEEL LIKE A
SOLUTION WHEN IT COMES TO YOU
THEY RARELY IS. WHILE THE
OFFENSE WILL NOT PREVENT
OFFENDING BY YOU. IT WILL
MANUFACTURE MORE CRIMINALS WHICH
IS UNFORTUNATELY A BY PRODUCT OF
JOSH'S INVOLVEMENT IT IS RARELY
HELPFUL TO YOU TO BRING THEM
INTO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. AT THE
VERY MOST IMPRESSIONABLE TIME OF
THEIR LIVES BACK TIME WHEN
THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING IDENTITIES
. VERY AFTER AGREEING A CASE
AGAINST A YOUNG PERSON AND
SENDING HIM TO COURT IT'S TO
TELEGRAPH TO HIM YOU ARE A BAD
PERSON A CRIMINAL AND NOT ONE OF
US. WHEN WE SEND A YOUNG PERSON
INTO DETENTION WE ARE SAYING TO
HIM THESE ARE YOUR FRIENDS. THEY
ARE LIKE YOU. ATTRACTED TO THEIR
PEERS THAT'S ALL YOU ARE HE
BECOMES LIKE THAT. ALL THE
SCIENCE SAYS THAT BETTER
OUTCOMES- CHEAT WHEN YOU ARE
KEPT OUT OF THE JUSTICE SYSTEM.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS NOT TO SAY
THAT YOU SHOULD NEVER BE
CRIMINALLY SANCTION IT JUST
MEANS THAT WE AS RATIONAL ACTORS
NEED TO BE CAUTIOUS ABOUT THE
ENACTING PROVISIONS
CRIMINALIZING CONDUCT CONDUCT
YOU MAY LIKELY ENGAGE. WE ON THE
ANDERS THE SHOCK AND HORROR OF
CHANGES LIKE THAT. CRIMINALIZING
YOU CONDUCT WILL NOT WORK IT IS
NO BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITIES
AND WILL WILL WANT THE LICENSE
YOU NEEDLESSLY. BUT WHAT IS TO
BE DONE I'M ACTUALLY WHAT CLUED
ME NEITHER CAN YOU CONCLUDE YOUR
TESTIMONY WE'VE EXCEEDED OUR TWO
MINUTES. YES WE ARE 1100% IN
FAVOR OF STATEWIDE PROGRAMS IN
THE SCHOOLS IN THE COMMUNITY
EIGHT YEARS PRINCIPLE TO THE
ADOLESCENT DEVELOPMENT DESIGNED
TO EFFECTIVELY DETER YOU FROM
DISTRIBUTING INTIMATE IMAGES. WE
ARE AWARE OF WE ACCUSE ME WE ARE
UNAWARE OF THE EXISTENCE OF ANY
SUCH PROGRAMS LET'S TRY IN THOSE
FIRST BUT LACKS EXCLUDE YOU FROM
THOSE ACCOUNTS THANK YOU VERY
MUCH THANK YOU. FOR ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE AND
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED. IT WAS TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. TO SB TEN
EIGHTY ONE. IN NINETEEN ON
MODERATOR LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES DOWN TWO THIRDS WITNESS
WHO WISHING TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION OF US. THREE TEN
EIGHTY ONE. THE NEW TESTIFIED IN
OPPOSITION TO THE SP TEN EIGHTY
ONE PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO
AT THIS TIME. WELL FIRST OFF THE
LINE FORTY TWO GO AHEAD PLEASE.
GOOD MORNING CATHY SURE ON
BEHALF OF THE ACLU CALIFORNIA
ACTIONS. OF THANK YOU. THE
CURTAINS. THIS IS YOUR WE HAVE
NOWHERE ELSE QUEUED UP AT THIS
TIME. GOT IT WILL BRING YOU BACK
TO THE COMMITTEE OTHER ANY
QUESTIONS CENTER WINNER THANK
YOU MR I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE
WE'RE ALL. ACTUALLY DISCUSSING
THE SAME THANKS I THOUGHT
THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
LEGITIMATE ISSUES BRING UP BEEN
BROUGHT UP TO I JUST WANT TO
CLARIFY. UNDER THE AMENDMENT
THAT THE AUTHOR HAS TAKEN CLOSER
TO PARTS OF THIS BILL. IS
CLARIFYING THAT DIET DISPLAYING
SOMETHING IF I WALK AROUND WITH
A PICTURE MY HANDS OF SOMEONE.%
DOT TO DOT IS INCLUDED IN THE
DEFINITION OF DISTRIBUTING MONEY
WOULD LIKE EMAIL IT OUT OF TEXAS
TO SOMEONE- WHICH SEEMS PRETTY
COMMON SENSE TO ME THAT IF
YOU'RE CREATING SOMETHING AROUND
A CAR THAT THAT'S NOT MUCH
DIFFERENT THAN. NOTE THE POSTING
ON SOCIAL MEDIA OR BLASTING IT
OUT THE SECOND PART IS CHANGING
THE DEFINITION. OF IDENTIFIABLE
AND WHEN I LOOK AT LIKE THAT THE
OPPOSITION LETTER FROM THE
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S AND- I THINK
LEGITIMATE CONCERN ABOUT WHETHER
IT WAS TOO VAGUE- THAT'S BEEN
REMOVED FROM THE BILL NOW RIGHT.
ASSEMBLY CLICKS IS THAT CORRECT
AND HOUSE SO IS THIS BILL RIGHT
NOW. PURELY LIMITED. TO
CLARIFYING. THAT DISPLAYING
SOMETHING. IS THE SAME AS
DISTRIBUTION THAT'S PART OF THE
CRIME THAT'S CORRECT OKAY SO
JUST WITH THE AYE THE WHOLE.
DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER THE WHOLE
OF THE IDENTIFIABLE ISSUE IS
COMPLETELY OUT OF THIS BILL. AND
THE ONLY THING THIS BILL DOES
NOW IS FOR CLARIFIERS STATE THAT
WALKING AROUND WITH A BIG
PICTURE OF SOMEONE. IS INCLUDED
IN THE CRIME THE SAME AS IF YOU
WERE EMAILING ANALYSIS JUST TO
BE CLEAR BECAUSE I READ THE
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S LETTER. WHICH
I THOUGHT WAS A VERY PERSUASIVE
LETTER IN TERMS OF IDENTIFYING
THE CHALLENGES OF THE
IDENTIFIABLE ISSUE THAT'S- I
THINK THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT
THEY- THAT THEY- THAT THEY
RAISED IN TERMS OF SPECIFICS OF
THIS BILL. SO IT SEEMS TO ME
THAT- ASSUMING YOU BELIEVE
SOMEONE SOMEONE BELIEVES THIS
CRIMES THAT EXIST AND THAT IS
YOU KNOW PEOPLE CAN HAVE
WHATEVER OPINION THEY WANT. THE
IS THE QUESTION FOR THIS. IS
SHOULDN'T IT SHOULD IF SOME IF
IT IS A CRIME TO START EMAILING
AROUND SOMEONE'S NAKED PICTURE
OR VIDEO IF THAT'S A CRIME.
SHOULD ALSO BE A CRIME TO- WALK
AROUND WITH A PHOTO OF THE
PERSON OR POSTED ON THE SIDE OF
YOUR CAR OR DO WHATEVER IT SEEMS
LIKE THERE'S NO RATIONAL
DISTINCTION BETWEEN TWO THEY'RE
BOTH. EQUALLY BAD. BEHAVIORS AND
EQUALLY HARMFUL. SO THE
OPPOSITION I'M HERE AND I'M THE
OPPOSITION NOT LAST FOR THE LAST
EIGHT WITNESS WHO WAS VERY
COMPETE AS A MATTER OF GENERAL
CRIMINAL JUSTICE IS VERY
COMPELLING TO ME. IN TERMS OF
THE BASE TO HAVE AROUND
CRIMINALIZATION OF YOUTH IN. SAN
FRANCISCO WE'RE TRYING TO
COMPLETELY SHUT DOWN R. OR
JUVENILE HALL- AND I THINK A LOT
OF TIMES WE HAVE REALLY. LIKED
CRIMINALIZE YOUTH WHEN THEY
DON'T NEED TO BE I'M NOT TALKING
ABOUT WHEN SOMEONE KILLS SOMEONE
TO ROB SOMEONE I'M TALKING
ABOUT. OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE
THEY ARE IN THEIR BRAINS ARE NOT
FULLY FORMED AND- ON AND THEY
ARE IMPETUOUS AND WE DON'T WANT
TO SEND THEM INTO THE SCHOOL TO
PRISON PIPELINE AND- CREATE A
SELF FULFILLING PROPHECY OR
CRIMINAL AND THEY BECOME A
CRIMINAL- AND THAT'S WHY IT'S- A
LOT OF TIMES FOR. FOR YOUTH
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE CAN BE
EXTREMELY POWERFUL YOUR IT'S A
TEACHABLE. MOMENT AND IT SEEMS
LIKE THE OBJECTION TO THIS BILL
IS NOT TO THE BILL BUT IT'S TO
THE UNDERLYING CRIME THAT
ALREADY EXISTS IN THE PENAL
CODE- THAT INCLUDES USE IN THIS
MISDEMEANOR AND THAT'S A
COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE DEBATE. TO
HAVE BUT I. I AM I DON'T.
BECAUSE THE AUTHOR CAME FORWARD
AND SAID THERE'S THIS. MESSED UP
PART OF THIS DEFINITION IT NEEDS
TO BE CLARIFIED I DON'T THINK
IT'S HER RESPONSIBILITY TO THEM.
SIX WHAT MIGHT BE WRONG WITH THE
WITH THE ALREADY. EXISTING
REVENGE PORN. STATUE AND I IF
I'M MISINTERPRETING SOMETHING OR
WRONG ABOUT SOME THAT LIKE TO
HEAR THAT- AND I ALSO. I GUESS
THE QUESTION IS FOR THE
CONSULTANTS ARE FOR. RIGHT NOW
THIS IS REVENGE PORN IS A
MISDEMEANOR. AND SO WHAT WOULD
HAPPEN TO IF. THERE'S TALK OF A
NINETEEN YEAR OLD BUT THAT'S NOT
REALLY WHAT THE- THIS OBJECTION
WAS LIKE WHAT A FOURTEEN YEAR
OLD- OR FIFTEEN YEAR OLD. BUSES
IT'S A MISDEMEANOR. WHAT WOULD
TYPICALLY HAPPEN TO THEM. IF
YOUR YOU'RE A FIFTEEN YEAR OLD
WHO. YOU KNOW TAX A PICTURE OF
HIS OF HIS EX GIRLFRIEND.
BECAUSE HE'S- YOU KNOW. ANGRY
THAT YOU BROKE UP A THEM WHAT
WHAT TO THAT FOURTEEN YEAR OLD.
MAIENSCHEIN YEAH A LITTLE BETTER
THAT- AND YOU'RE RIGHT THANK YOU
FOR ALL THAT CLARIFICATION BUT
THIS CRIME IS A MISDEMEANOR BUT
ALSO ANY PERSON YOU ARE NOT IS
ELIGIBLE FOR DIVERSION THERE'S
ALSO THAT DISCRETION SO- I WANT
TO THANK YOU FOR THAT
CLARIFICATION AS WELL. AND THIS
IS JUST CLARIFYING THE
DEFINITION THAT DISTRIBUTION IS
ALSO DISPLAYING BY A FOR A
MOMENT YOU KNOW I JUST WANT US
ALL TO THINK REALLY QUICKLY AS
YOU KNOW SOME OF THE VICTIMS I
YOU KNOW I HEARD IN NIGHT
KNOWLEDGE THE STATEMENT ABOUT-
ARGUES RAIN DEVELOPING. BUT I
ALSO WANT US TO THINK OF THOSE
VICTIMS THAT DIE TO SUICIDE THEY
DON'T HAVE A CHANCE TO GROW UP
AND DEVELOP. THEY DON'T HAVE A
CHOICE THEIR LIVES ARE NO LONGER
EXISTING AND I ALSO WANT CHAIR.%
MISTER BRADFORD- CENTER BOWL AND
MISTER WINNER. IN YOURSELVES
MAKE IT RIGHT NOW ON THAT DIESS
. THIS IS SOMETHING I LOOK AT
AND I WANTED TO GO OUT INTO
THAT. AND STARE OUT INTO THIS.
YOU KNOW ROOM IMAGINE ALL OF
THEM STARING AT YOU RIGHT NOW
WITHOUT ANY CLOTHING. THAT IS
DRAMATIC AND THAT LEADS TO
SUICIDE AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO
CRIMINALIZE FOR USE WE'RE JUST
TRYING TO ENSURE THAT NO MORE OF
OUR YOUTH DIES BECAUSE THEY'RE
SO TRAUMATIZED SO I ASKED FOR AN
AYE VOTE AND WE ARE RESPECTFUL
OF. THE CONSEQUENCES OF SOMEONE
BEING INCARCERATED SO THIS
AGAIN- ANY U. S. ELIGIBLE FOR
DIVERSION RATHER THAN
INCARCERATION THANK YOU. YEAH
RIGHT- THE AND I'M NOT SO I'M
I'VE I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE THIS
BILL FORWARD TODAY WITH WITHOUT
THE AMENDMENTS I WOULD HAVE I
DID HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
AMBIGUITY OF THE IDENTIFIABLE
ISSUE I THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN
ISSUE AND BECAUSE NOW IT SEEMS
LIKE THE MAIN OBJECTION- I DON'T
HEAR ANYONE THIS THANK DISPLAY
SHOULD NOT BE THE SAME AS
DISTRIBUTE NO I'VE HEARD NO ONE
OBJECTED I'M NOT ALL THAT THIS
BILL DOES NOW- AND AGAIN I DON'T
I DON'T WANT TO PUT ON THIS
HOLLISTER THE- RESPONSIBILITY TO
REFORM ALL OF OUR YOUTH JUSTICE
LAWS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT
REVENGE PORN THERE ARE VARIOUS.
KINDS OF CRIMES BUT I THINK IF
YOU'RE A FIFTEEN YEAR OLD DOING
THIS YOUR RESTORATIVE JUSTICE IS
GOING TO BE I THINK BETTER AND
MORE IMPACTFUL- THEM THEN PUT IN
A KID AND YOU KNOW AND JUVENILE
HALL- BUT THAT IS A BROADER
ISSUE OF REFORMING A BROKEN
JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT IS
NOT SERVING- ARE YOU VIEW THE
VICTIMS OR THE PERPETRATOR SO TO
ALL MOVE THE BILL- AND I
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR TAKING
ABOUT A MOMENT. OKAY THE FOR
THIS OCCASION. ON THE SIDE OF.
SENATE JUST LIKE I JUST READ
THANK THE AUTHOR FOR BRINGING
THIS MEASURE FORWARD IN FOR THE
CLARIFICATION BECAUSE IT I AGREE
WITH YOU THAT'S TO MATIC EFFECT
YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THE
VICTIMS AND I'M SORRY TO TALK
ABOUT THE PERPETRATORS AND
HAVING COMPASSION SYMPATHY AND
TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE
DEVELOPMENT- BUT I IT WAS REALLY
INTERESTING BECAUSE- EVEN THOUGH
OUR BRAINS ARE NOT FULLY
DEVELOPED. NO THEY'RE NOT ABSENT
JUDGMENT WE DO HAVE JUDGMENT
MAYBE NOT FULLY DEVELOPED BUT WE
DO HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT'S RIGHT
AND WRONG OTHERWISE OUR WHOLE
YOU COULD BE COMPLETELY
COMPROMISED OUR SOCIETY WHICH IS
NOT- SO THANK YOU FOR BRING THIS
MEASURE FORWARD AND WE DO WE DO
HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE VICTIMS
AND WHAT THEY GO THROUGH- WHEN
WE'RE LOOKING AT- IN SOME OF
THE- CONSEQUENCES. OF THESE
ACTIONS I THINK YOU. ALL RIGHT
WE HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR
WIENER HEADS- THE- CENTER HAS
TAKEN THE MOMENT SO ISIT TO
PASS AS AMENDED TO
APPROPRIATIONS. YES YES- COUNCIL
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON S. B.
CAN ANYONE SB TEN ANYONE TO PASS
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
BRADFORD. AYE BRADFORD AYE CHOI
BOGUE. JOBO GUY COMMAGER SKINNER
WIENER AYE WIENER AYE LOU THE
ROLE OPEN FOR THE ABSENT MEMBERS
YOU HAVE THREE BOETTCHER
MEASURES OUT. THANK YOU HAVE A
GOOD DAY THANK YOU. NEXUS S. B.
ELEVEN OH EIGHT BY SENATOR BATES.
ASSEMBLY JAILS ARAMBULA. HERE
SOME OF THESE FROM EXPERIENCED.
ALMOST SEVEN. WHEN MY BRAIN
WASN'T TOO TO A- THE- ANYWAY ARE
. MISTER TERRY MEMBERS I AM
PLEASED TO PRESENT SENATE BILL
ELEVEN OH EIGHT WHICH DOES ONE
SIMPLE THING IT LETS THE VOTERS
DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TOUGHER
PENALTIES FOR CEREALS THEY OFFED
BY PLACING OF THE QUESTION ON
THE NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY TWO
GENERAL ELECTION BALLOT WHEN
VOTERS APPROVED PROPOSITION
FORTY SEVEN THEY WANTED TO
REVAMP THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM BY REQUIRING MISDEMEANORS
INSTEAD OF FELONIES FOR NON
SERIOUS NONVIOLENT CRIMES LIKE
PETTY THEFT AND DRUG POSSESSION
UNLESS THE DEFENDANT HAD PRIOR
CONVICTIONS FOR SPECIFIED
VIOLENT OR SERIOUS CRIMES WITH
THE VOTERS DIDN'T CONTEMPLATE.
THE SPATE OF RETAIL SALES THAT
ARE IMPACTING OUR LOCAL
ECONOMIES WHEN WOMEN IN MY HOME
COUNTY OF ORANGE WAS CAUGHT WITH
THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND WORTH OF
GOODS THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND
DOLLARS WORTH OF GOODS HE HAD
SHOPLIFTED LAW ENFORCEMENT
DESCRIBED HER RESIDENTS AS
PACKED WALL TO WALL IN EVERY
ROOM WITH BAGS AND CLOTHING FROM
BRANDS LIKE GUCCI PRADA AND YOU
NEED TO IN MY OWN HOMETOWN OF
LAGOON IN A GAL AT A LOCAL DRUG
STORE INDIVIDUALS CAME IN AND
TOOK. AT LEAST. TWO HUNDRED
DOLLARS WORTH OF- GOODS ALCOHOL
IT CETERA. PASSED THE CHECK
STAND AND THE CLERK SAID AUTHOR
PLEASE ALL YOU NEED TO PAY FOR
THAT HE PULLED HIS COAT BACK AND
SHOWED HER A GUN. AND PROCEEDED
OUT. VOTERS DIDN'T REALIZE THAT
THESE PROPERTY CRIMES ARE GOING
TO SEE SIGNIFICANT RISES AND
THREATS LIKE THAT. IN FACT A
RECENT CALCHAMBER POLL FOUND
THAT 74% OF VOTERS WOULD FAVOR
MAKING CEREAL STAFFED THE FELONY
AGAIN. IN DECEMBER TWENTY TWENTY
ONE PPRC DATA SHOWED INCREASES
IN PROPERTY CRIMES IN FOUR OF
OUR MAJOR CITY. LOS ANGELES
OAKLAND SAN DIEGO AND SAN
FRANCISCO. DATA SHOWS INCREASES
IN PROPERTY CRIME. THAT DATA
SHOWS INCREASES IN PROPERTY
CRIME WHICH ROSE NEARLY 7% WHEN
COMPARING THE FIRST TEN MONTHS
OF TWENTY TWENTY ONE AND TWENTY
TWENTY. AFTER HOVERING AROUND
TWENTY THOUSAND REPORTED
PROPERTY CRIMES PER MONTH IN
EARLY TWENTY TWENTY ONE THE
NUMBERS HAVE INCREASED TO TWENTY
FIVE THOUSAND IN OCTOBER. THE
HIGHEST MONTHLY TOTAL SINCE THE
BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC. IF
APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. S. B.
ELEVEN OH EIGHT. WILL ALLOW A
PERSON HAS BEEN CONVICTED THREE
OR MORE TIMES OF PETTY THEFT
GRANT AFTER OTHER SPECIFIED
CRIMES AND WHO SUBSEQUENTLY
CONVICTED OF PETTY THEFT. TO BE
A CONVICTED OF A FELONY. PART OF
THE STATE'S STRATEGY TO REDUCE
STAFF TO MUST INCLUDE TOUGHER
CONSEQUENCES TO DID HERE. REPEAT
OFFENDERS AND INDIVIDUAL AN
INDIVIDUAL WHO COMMITS FOR MORE
THEY HAVE TO RELATED CRIME
SHOULD BE CHARGED AS A SERIAL
OFFENDER. PROPOSITION FORTY
SEVENS REPEAL OF CALIFORNIA
SERIAL THEFT STATUTE WAS A
MISTAKE THAT HE VOTERS SHOULD
HAVE HAVE THE CHANCE TO CORRECT.
I BELIEVE THEY WILL AGREE I HAVE
WITH ME TODAY RATE GRAND GOFF
CHIEF OF STAFF TO ORANGE COUNTY
SHERIFF DON BARNES. THE
SCREENSHOT IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO
HOW FOUR MINUTES FOR YOUR CUSTOM
. THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN- NORTE
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT IS
PLEASED TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
THIS NECESSARY LEGISLATION WHICH
WILL PROVIDE CALIFORNIA VOTERS
AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS
PROPERTY CRIME. THIS BILL DOES
NOT TARGET SO CALLED LOW LEVEL
OFFENDERS BUT INSTEAD REPAIRS
CONSEQUENCES IN OUR LAWS FOR
REPEAT OFFENDERS. IT
ACCOMPLISHES THIS BY ALLOWING A
PERSON WHO'S BEEN CONVICTED
THREE OR MORE TIMES FOR PETTY
THEFT GRAND THEFT OR OTHER
SPECIFIED CRIMES AND WHO IS AND
THEN SUBSEQUENTLY CONVICTED OF
PETTY THEFT TO BE CONVICTED. OF
A FELONY. THIS BILL FOCUSES ON
THOSE WHO STEAL AGAIN AND AGAIN
AND AGAIN. THOSE WHO HEARD OUR
RETAIL INDUSTRY AND GRILLI
ABRUPT THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN
OUR COMMUNITY. THOSE WHO DO NOT
CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR BECAUSE
THERE IS NO CONSEQUENCE TO
CHANGE THEIR BEHAVIOR. IT IS NOT
A REPEAL OF PROP FORTY SEVEN BUT
RATHER AND NEEDED COURSE
CORRECTION. SB ELEVEN AWAIT
PRESENTS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RE
CALIBRATE AND PUT SOME BALANCE
BACK INTO OUR LIVES. WE HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE THAT WE CAN HAVE A
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT
BOTH PROVIDES GRACE AND MERCY TO
THOSE WHO MAKE MISTAKES OR ARE
IN NEED OF HELP. BUT CANNABIS
SAMETIME ALSO HAVE MEANINGFUL
GESTURES IN CONSEQUENCE FOR THE
SHE REPEATEDLY VICTIMIZE OTHERS
. THAT IS NOT A VICTIMLESS
CRIME. PROHIBITIONS AGAINST THAT
ARE ONE OF THE MOST BASIC
PRINCIPLES OF A MORAL AN ORDERLY
SOCIETY. IF OUR LAWS DO NOT
REFLECT THIS BELIEF. IN
PRESERVING A SMALL ORDER WE WILL
CONTINUE TO DEVOLVE INTO THE
TYPE OF CHAOS WE HAVE WITNESSES
WITNESSED INTO MANY INSTANCES
OVER THE PAST YEAR. I CENTER
BATES NOTED THERE HAVE BEEN
INCREASES IN PROPERTY CRIME. WE
ALSO KNOW THAT THE INCREASES ARE
LIKELY GREATER BECAUSE SO MUCH
OF THE STAFF GOES ON REPORTED.
IN THE VIEW OF MANY RETAILERS
WHAT IS THE POINT OF REPORTING
WHEN THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY
. THOUSAND ONE THAT IS
REPRESENTING A LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCY IN A PUBLIC FORUM TODAY I
WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE CLEAR
THAT WE ENCOURAGE ALL RELATED
RETAILERS AND ANY VICTIM OF
STAFF TO REPORT. REGARDLESS OF
THE PERCEIVED MINIMAL
CONSEQUENCE. HOWEVER WE
UNDERSTAND THE RETAILER'S
FRUSTRATION THE NATIONAL RETAIL
FEDERATION SURVEY SAID THAT 69%
OF RETAILERS SAW AN INCREASE IN
ORGANIZED RETAIL CRIME DURING
TWENTY TWENTY ONE. ABOUT 30% 37%
OF THE RESPONDENTS CLAIMED GANGS
COMMITTING RETAIL THEFT OR MORE
AGGRESSIVE THAN IN THE PAST. WE
BELIEVE S. B. ELEVEN OH EIGHT
SOLUTION OF GREATER PENALTY FOR
REPEAT OFFENDERS IS THE RIGHT
SOLUTION. FINALLY I WANT. TO
RIDES AND ATTRACTIONS SYSTEM AND
I KNOW THAT THIS IS TRUE IN
OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE AS
WELL. WE HAVE ENHANCED OUR
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH PROGRAMS
REENTRY TRAINING AND COUNSELING.
HOWEVER WE CANNOT HELP OFFENDERS
AND FAR LAWS BE NOT PROVIDING
IMPETUS FOR THEM TO REFORM.
TODAY IS LAWS YOU NOT PROVIDE AN
UPDATE BUT THIS BUT THIS
COMMITTEE CAN HELP RESTORE. THAT
BALANCE BY TAKING ACTION TODAY.
IN VOTING YES ON SB ELEVEN ONLY
THANK YOU FOR YOUR
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU NOW WILL MOVE TO WITNESSES
HERE IN THE ROOM AND TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED WHO WISH TO TESTIFY AND
SUPPORT THE S. B. ILLINOIS. GOOD
MORNING MR CHAIRMAN RESOLUTION
MUCH ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION
SUPPORT THANK YOU. THE MORNING
CARE MEMBERS BRENDAN UP ON
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY
SHERIFF IN SUPPORT AND I
APOLOGIZE FOR NOT GETTING A
LETTER IN ON TIME TO BE
REFLECTED IN THE HOUSE THANK
YOU. THANK YOU. IN ADDITION
WOULD DISAPPEAR IN TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED WHO WISH TO TESTIFY IN
SUPPORT OF SB ELEVEN OO. EIGHT
KERN SOON NONE NOW MODERATOR
WILL GO TO THE PHONE LINES ARE
THERE WITNESSES IN SUPPORT. OF
S. B. ELEVEN OH EIGHT. YOU'RE
READY TO YOUR SUPPORT PRESS ONE
THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME. WE'LL GO
TO LINE FORTY NINE GO AHEAD.
THANK YOU CAN DOWNTURN ADVOCACY
ON BEHALF THE CALIFORNIA
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION
IN SUPPORT. WE DO HAVE OTHERS IN
Q. ONE MOMENT WHILE WE ASSIGNED
THEM THEIR LINE NUMBERS.
THE BILL NEXT TO LINE THIRTY TWO
GO AHEAD PLEASE. GOOD MORNING
MISTER CHAIR MEMBERS THAT DATE
BUT WERE ON BEHALF OF THE UNITED
CHAMBER ADVOCACY NETWORK A
COALITION OF LOCAL CHAMBERS OF
COMMERCE AND FOR NORTHERN
CALIFORNIA'S EUROPE WHERE A
COUNTIES REPRESENTING. OVER SIX
THOUSAND EMPLOYERS- IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. BY IN. FIFTY
THREE. HELLO BREANNA VOLATILE ON
BEHALF. FORMER SENT. COUNTY
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HERE IN
SUPPORT OF SCO EARLY. FIFTY BUT. FORTY FIVE. WRANGLING WITH THE
HELP RETAILER ABILITY- WE ARE
SUPPORT IF AMENDED THANK YOU.
MISTER WE HAVE NO ELSE IN TWO.
GREAT NO WILL MOVE TO OPPOSITE
OUR SHOE. LEASE CALL WILL
HOUSTON. AS ONE OF WITH OR THINK
THERE'S A AT OF. WILL STAR WITH
THE TO YOUR HAVE MINUTES AND
THEN WE'LL FOR. SURE- TWO
MINUTES. THANK YOU MORNING
SHARING MEMBERS I'M COMMITTING
I'M SORRY MY NAME LESLIE CO
HOUSTON I'M REPRESENT THE COLOR
PUBLIC AND ASSOCIATE AND WE MUST
OPPOSE THIS BILL. LET ME SAY
THAT ONE AND OTHERS ARE CLAIMING
THAT THE CRIME RATE IS GETTING
IT IS NOT. IN A FEW AREAS OF
THIS MIGHT PROPERTY CRIMES HAVE
SOMEWHAT INCREASED BUT
STATISTICS DO NOT SHOW THE
CLAIMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT TO BE
TRUE. IN MY LOCALITY A YEAR OR
TWO AGO A POLICE CHIEF CLAIMED
THAT VEHICLE THEFT HAS RISEN
MASSIVELY WHEN I CHECKED THE
REPORTED NUMBERS FOR HIS CITY
THERE WAS ONE MORE VEHICLE LEFT
IN THE YEAR HE SPOKE OF. THE
NEXT YEAR PRIOR ONE PORTSMOUTH
AND REPEATEDLY CLAIMED THE NOT
THEY CAN DO ABOUT MINOR
ESPECIALLY SHOP. BECAUSE OF
PROPOSITION FORTY SEVEN LAST
WEEK THE GENTLEMAN FROM LAW
ENFORCEMENT CLAIMED IN TESTIMONY
TO THE LEGISLATURE THAT THEY
ARRESTED A PERSON WITH TEN FAY
CATIONS IN THE POCKET FOR
SHOPLIFTING SUGGESTING THEY WERE
HELPLESS TO PROTECT THE
COMMUNITY FOR THE OFFENDER. FROM
THAT THE VENDOR EACH OF THOSE
CITATIONS CAN CARRY A JAIL
SENTENCE OF UP TO SIX MONTHS.
THE COURT MAY IMPOSE EACH OF
THOSE THAT THIS ONE AFTER
ANOTHER FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE
YEARS IN THE LOCAL JAIL. LAW
ENFORCEMENT AND PROSECUTORS HAVE
MYRIAD OF OPTIONS AND TOOLS AT
THEIR READY FOR INSTANCE A ROOM
FULL OF STOLEN GOODS IS ALREADY
A FELONY. RUNNING FROM
NORDSTROM'S WITH THE THOUSAND
DOLLAR BAG IS ALREADY A FELONY.
PROPOSITION FORTY SEVEN WAS
APPROVED BY THE VOTERS OF THIS
STATE AND IT IS WORKING YET THE
MEDIA SHOWING MATH DEPT ACTIONS
IN SAN FRANCISCO WALNUT CREEK IS
FRIGHTENING PEOPLE WHEN YOU SEE
THE SAME FOOTAGE A HUNDRED TIMES
ONE PERSON STEALING ITEMS. AND
WALKING OUT OF THE WALGREENS IN
SAN FRANCISCO THE GENERAL PUBLIC
IS MISLED INTO THINKING IT IS
HAPPENING ALL DAY EVERY DAY.
THEN THE POLITICAL RHETORIC
BEGINS A NEW AND IT STILL WON'T.
THIS ISN'T EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED
TO RETURN TO TOUGH ON CRIME
MEASURES THAT WE KNOW DOESN'T
WORK WE HAD THE TOUGH ON CRIME
REGIMEN FOR AT LEAST THREE
DECADES. THAT LED TO MASS
INCARCERATION. AND THEN TOLD
COST WHO ARE PER AND ARE TO.
WE'VE HAD PROP. FORTY FIVE AND
OTHER CRIMINALS SYSTEM WE- ARE
ONLY A FEW. IN TWENTY TWENTY
THAN YEARS AGO IN PROPOSITION
TWO. PUBLIC STREET. THE EFFORT
TO UNDO PROP SEVEN AND RETURNED
TO PLAY MATH OF DEAL WITH THE
CAR JUSTICE SYSTEM. UNDER AT
ELEVEN NO WAY WE WOULD RETURN IN
CAR. NONVIOLENT SHOPLIFTERS FOR
YEARS IN PRISON NEXT THE VIOLENT
OFFENDERS. PRISONS WHICH OF THE
UNIVERSITY'S OF CRIMES ARE
SHOPPING TO SOMEONE IN NEED YOU
TO CONCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY MANY
TO CLOSURE TESTIMONY THANKS. IT
WILL TO OUR- CHIANG. GOLDEN CORE
ACTIVITY AND OFTEN VIOLENT I
RISK ASK YOUR NOSE. THANK YOU
MISTER. GOOD MORNING MR CHAIRMAN
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE AND I RESPECTFULLY COME
FOR YOU TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO
SB ELEVEN AWAY. FOR FORTY SEVEN
HAS BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL IN
CALIFORNIA AND VOTERS SHOULD BE
PROUD WHAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED
BY ENACTING IT EIGHT YEARS AGO.
IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO CALL OUT
THE DISINFORMATION BEING PUSHED
BY LAW ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATIONS.
AND THOSE WHO TAKE THEIR MONEY
FOR WHAT IT IS THIS INFORMATION
. THE PURPOSE OF PROP FORTY
SEVEN A SIMPLE. IF WE STOP
SENDING PEOPLE CONVICTED OF SOME
OF THE LOWEST LEVEL CRIMES IN
OUR STATE PENAL CODE. PETTY
THEFT POSSESSION OF DRUGS FOR
PERSONAL USE TO SAY PRISON FOR
UP TO THREE YEARS AND ENORMOUS
TAXPAYER EXPENSE. THE COST WELL
OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS
A YEAR TO INCARCERATE ONE PERSON
IN CALIFORNIA FOR A YEAR. AND
INSTEAD ALLOW THOSE FOLKS TO BE
INCARCERATED IN JAIL FOR SIX TO
TWELVE MONTHS WE'VE SAVE
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY
MONEY THAT WOULD BE USED TO
INCREASE PUBLIC SAFETY BY
INVESTING IN COMMUNITY BASED
PROGRAMS. THAT ADDRESS TO
DRIVERS OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF
CRIME WE EXPANSION CALIFORNIA
EVERY DAY. MENTAL ILLNESS
ADDICTION AND THE INABILITY TO
REGAIN STABILITY. THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT PROP FORTY SEVEN HAS DONE
AND HAS MADE GOOD ON EVERY
PROMISE IT MADE TO VOTERS. WE
REDUCE THE PRISON POPULATION AND
SAVE JUST SINCE TWENTY FIFTEEN
NEARLY SIX HUNDRED MILLION
DOLLARS. THOSE DOLLARS HAVE BEEN
REINVESTED AND CRIME PREVENTION
PROGRAMS. DOWN THE STATE AND ARE
PROVIDING SERVICES TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF THE MOST VULNERABLE
CALIFORNIANS DRUG TREATMENT
MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES REENTRY
SERVICES JOB TRAINING HOUSING
SUPPORTS AND MORE. EVERY DAY IN
CALIFORNIA THANKS TO PROP FORTY
SEVEN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE
REGAINING STABILITY HOPE IN THE
ABILITY TO SUCCESSFULLY
CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR FAMILIES AND
COMMUNITIES. AT THE DATA
PROVIDES THAT THESE PROP FORTY
SEVEN FROM THE PROGRAMS ARE
WORKING. JUST LAST MONTH DATA
RELEASED BY THE B. S. C. C. SHOW
THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE
SUCCESSFULLY REDUCING
RECIDIVISM. CRIME AND INCREASING
SAFETY. THIS IS WHAT THE TRUE
PUBLIC SAFETY LOOKS LIKE THE
PROBLEM IS WE ARE SLATED TO
SPEND FOURTEEN POINT TWO BILLION
DURING THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR
ALONE ON PRISONS THAT'S A 4%
INCREASE OVER THE LAST YEAR. AND
A WHOPPING 58% INCREASE SINCE
TWENTY TWELVE A MERE DECADE AGO.
OUR PRISON SPENDING REMAINS OUT
OF CONTROL IN THERE REMAINS AN
ENORMOUS AND VERY TROUBLING GAPS
BETWEEN WHAT WE SPEND EVERY ON
PRISONS IN THE AMOUNT WE INVEST
IN PREVENTING CRIME AND HARM
FROM OCCURRING IN THE FIRST
PLACE. PROP FORTY SEVEN IS
SHOWING US EVERY DAY THAT WHAT
WE- WHAT IS POSSIBLE IF WE
INVESTED IMPROVE AND EFFECTIVE
CRIME PREVENTION PROGRAMS TO
SCALE. WHAT THIS BILL AIMS TO DO
IS THE VERY OPPOSITE OF WHAT WE
KNOW WORKS BEST TO INTERRUPT
CYCLES OF CRIME AND VIOLENCE
INSTEAD OF CREATING NEW. FUNDING
FOR CRIME PREVENTION THIS BILL
WOULD FORCE US TO SPEND EVEN
MORE THAN WE ALREADY DO ON
PRISONS AND YOU WROTE IN THE
MONEY SAY ABOUT PROP FORTY
SEVEN. A FOR CRIME PREVENTION.
THAT'S A DOUBLE CHECK OF S. B.
ELEVEN AWAY IN JAIL CASTING. HAS
FAILED THREE TIMES TO INTERRUPT
A PERSON'S LOW LEVEL NON VIOLENT
CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR WELL WE EXPECT
AN ENORMOUSLY EXPENSIVE SPIN AND
STATE PRISON. TO HAVE A POSITIVE
EFFECT WE NEED TO DOUBLE DOWN ON
NON COMMERCIAL PROCEEDS. PROVEN
TO BETTER STOP THE CYCLE
APPROACHES THAT PROP FORTY SEVEN
HAS CREATED A PERMANENT FUND
FUNDING SYSTEM FOR. THAT IS
EXPECTED TO BE OVER A BILLION
DOLLARS. IN THAT IN THE NEXT
DECADE. THIS BILL IS BAD POLICY
IT DOESN'T DOES THE EXACT
OPPOSITE OF WHAT RESEARCH AND
DATA SHOWS AS BEST PREVENTS
CRIME INCREASES SAFETY AND ALL
OF OUR COMMUNITIES. WE URGE YOU
TO VOTE NO ON SB ELEVEN AWAY
THANK YOU ANY ADDITIONAL
WITNESSES HERE IN THE ROOM IN
OPPOSITION TO ISRAEL ANNOYED. SO
HE LET THEM COMPORTMENT FILLER
THANK YOU. MORNING SURE MEMBERS-
KEVIN MCCARTY ON BEHALF
UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS INITIATIVE
IN STRONG OPPOSITION THANK YOU
THANK YOU. HI MY NAME IS ERIN
MCCALL AND I'M WITH THE
UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS AT UC
BERKELEY AND I AM ALSO IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU. MY NAME IS
MICHELLE NASA WITH THE
UNDERGROUND SCHOLARS AT UC
BERKELEY AND I AM IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. MICROSPHERE WITH
BERGERON SCHOLARS IN OPPOSITION
THANK YOU. NOW MODERATOR WILL GO
TO OUR PHONE LINES AND SEE IF
THERE'S A WITNESSES AND
OPPOSITION TO S. B. ELEVEN OH
EIGHT. IT IS YOU CAN OPPOSITION
PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT THIS TIME
WE'LL GO FIRST TO LINE FIFTY
WELL AT. GOOD MORNING JAN
MEMBERS JIM LINDBERG OF THE HALF
OF THE FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON
LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA IN
OPPOSITION THANK YOU THANK YOU.
BY. FORTY EIGHT. JENNIFER
GOVERNMENT THE PLAYGROUND
COLLEGE ADMISSION IS EIGHTY SAN
DIEGO AND I ASK YOU TO OPPOSE SB
ELEVEN OH EIGHT THANK YOU THANK
YOU. LINE SIXTY. HI MY NAME IS
MICHAEL MENDOZA WHAT THEY ARE
SCENE I RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THAT
FELID NORWAY THANK YOU THANK YOU
. LINE FORTY ONE. MEMBERS OF THE
COMMITTEE MY NAME IS ESTEBAN
UNIONS I'M WITH THE ENTIRE
DIVISION RESPECTFULLY AND OPPOSE
THE END OF THE THANK YOU. THANK
YOU. BYE. NINE SIXTY TWO. GOOD
MORNING MY NAME IS ROACH BROWN
ON THE WITH THE ANTI WITH
COALITION AND SHOPPERS AT ALIKE
OKAY THANK YOU. BY FIVE. GOOD
MORNING MY I FELT IN MY LIVING
ON COFFEE I AM CALLING STRONG
POSITION ONE ONE THREE THANK YOU. LIKE. NINE GOOD MORNING JOHN
NUMBER MY NAME SARAH NEON BEHALF
OF THE CHANGE AND RESPECT FOR.
THIRTY ONE. MY CARE MAINTENANCE
AM BIGGER AND I AM CALL THIS UP
WITH TO AS ELEVEN ZERO EIGHT ON
BEHALF OF ALL OF US ARE LEFT THE. LINE THIRTY THREE. GOOD
MORNING INSTEAD OF MY MISSION
TELL HOW AND I LIVE IN LOS I'M
CALLING IN STRONG UP. TO SB ONE
ONE ZERO EIGHT THANK YOU. I
DON'T. NINE FIFTY NINE. BY
FIFTEEN GOING PLEASE WELL ME
WITH GARY. HELLO NAME IS GORDON
I LAYING ON THE FLOOR POSITION
FACE. ONE ONE ZERO EIGHT. THANK
YOU. FINE FOR THREE. GOOD
MORNING TO MEMBERS MY NAME'S
PRESTIGE ON TOP CAL AND I'M
CALLING WRONG OFFICE AS SB
ELEVEN. THANK YOU. BY. FIVE FOR
ME IT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL OPEN
NINE FIFTY ONE INSTEAD OF TWENTY
FIVE ONE FIFTY ONE GO AHEAD
PLEASE. GOOD MORNING SENATORS
LIKE MANY OF THIS IS DEREK
MORGAN METALLIC BAKER CENTER FOR
HUMAN RIGHTS IN OPPOSITION.
THANK YOU. BY TWENTY FIVE. GOOD
MORNING CARE MEMBERS THAT THEY
JUST CRIED ON BEHALF OF ALL OF
US OR NONE ORANGE COUNTY CALLING
IN STRONG OPPOSITION TO SB
ELEVEN EARLY. LINE. SIXTY THE
MORTGAGE JOSH FUNDS THAT THE
ANTI RECIDIVISM COALITION IN
STRONG OPPOSITION THANK YOU. BY
TWENTY EIGHT. GOOD MORNING CARE
SENATORS MY NAME IS KIMBERLY
FOSTER AND I'M CALLING IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO ADD BE A LEVIN L.
A. ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS FOR
SAFETY AND JUSTICE. NINE FIFTY
SIX. GOOD MORNING TERRENCE
SANDERS MY NAME THE LORD
GONZALEZ AND I LIVE IN LOS
ANGELES I'M CALLING IN STRONG
OPPOSITION TO ANTI ELEVEN ZERO
EIGHT THANK YOU. BY FIFTY
SEVENTH. WHAT'S YEAR AND
UNDOCUMENTED EUROPE MCCORKLE
CURRENTLY CALIFORNIA COURTROOMS
YOU WANT CITY HALL IN THE STRONG
OPPOSITION CLASS B. ELEVEN OH
EIGHT. THANK YOU. PINE. FORTY
HELLO MY NAME IS KATHERINE FINAL
I LIVE IN THE CITY WILMINGTON
I'M CALLING A STRONG OPPOSITION
OF SB ELEVEN ONLY THANK YOU.
LINE TWENTY SEVEN. EIGHT
HUNDRED. HI MY NAME IS. I'M A
NEW WAY OF LIFE AND WORK IN
STRONG OFFICE TO. HELLO KNOWING
THANK YOU. LINE FIFTY FOUR. HI
GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS IVANA
GONZALEZ AND I AM CALLING YOU
HAVE A LEGAL ADVOCATE WHICH WILL
THE- FOR FAMILY UNITY AND I
LOOKED THEY'RE NOT. IN STRONG OF
THE VISION OF S. SEVEN AWAY
THANK YOU. PINE CREEK. EIGHT YES
WE CAN HEAR YOU. BOB BANDANNA
MISSISSAUGA AT BEING ELEVEN
EARLY. ONE SIXTY FOUR HAPPENED
GOOD MORNING TRANSCENDED TWENTY
WITH MY RODRIGUEZ I LIVE IN LONG
BEACH I AND IN STRONG OPPOSITION
TO ADD THE LAW OH EIGHT THANK
YOU. LINE TWENTY ONE. GOOD
MORNING JEREMY AND SENATORS
MINING THE DATA AND GO ON THE OF
JACKIE THANK YOU'RE GONNA SEE-
WE ARE STRONG OPPOSED TO BE LIKE
OH EIGHT THANK YOU. MISTER
CHAIRMAN WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE Q.
THANK YOU NOW WILL BRING A TO
COMMITTEE WHEN. I'VE YOU VERY
MUCH I'M- AYE CHAN- I'M ONE OF
TO BILL I BE VOTING NO- TODAY-
AND I JUST YOU KNOW WHAT TO SAY
I I'D LIKE ANYONE ELSE ONE
ACCOUNTABILITY FROM PEOPLE
COMMIT OUR CRIMES AND I KNOW
THAT. THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICS
RIGHT NOW RUN SHOPLIFTING I IN
PARTICULAR AND I THINK IT'S
REALLY IMPORTANT TO FOCUS ON THE
FACTS HERE. THE CRIMES OF THE
AUTHOR MENTIONED IN HER OPENING
ARGUMENT THOSE ARE BACK CRIMES-
HI THOSE ARE FELONIES RIGHT NOW.
PROP FORTY SEVEN DENIED FOR
BRANDISHING A GUN AT SOMEONE IF
YOU HAVE THAT LEVEL OF.
SHOPLIFTING THAT YOU'RE DOING
THAT IS A CRIME THAT RELIES A
FELONY. AND PROP FORTY SEVEN DID
NOT CHANGE THAT I FEEL LIKE PROP
FORTY SEVEN HAS BECOME THIS
BOOGEYMAN THIS VESSEL THAT
ANYTIME ANYONE SAYS WE HAVE A
CRIME PROBLEM. IT'S BECAUSE IT
MUST BE BECAUSE OF PROP FORTY
SEVEN EVEN A PROP FORTY SEVEN
DID NOT TOUCH THAT AREA OF THE
LAW PROPERTY SEVEN IS NOT AS BIG
BOOGIE MAN'S THAT'S CAUSING ALL
THE PROBLEMS IN THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD
PROPERTY SEVEN BEING BLAMED. FOR
AT ANY. HOMELESSNESS FOR
EVERYTHING AND IT'S HONESTLY I'M
IT IT'S RIDICULOUS AND IT IS. A
MAJOR DISSERVICE TO THE PUBLIC
WHEN PEOPLE AND PARTICULARLY LAW
ENFORCEMENT KEEP PUTTING OUT.
INACCURATE FALSE STATEMENTS
ABOUT WHAT PROPERTY SEVEN DOES
AND DOESN'T DO. AND WHAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT. CURRENTLY CAN OR
CANNOT DO. SO THESE CRIMES THAT
ARE. BETTER NINETY PART OF
PROPER SEVEN WE NEED TO BE VERY
CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IS AND WHAT IS
NOT IN THIS BALLOT MEASURE ABOUT
MEASURE THAT WAS PASSED BY THE
VOTERS. AND THE VOTERS REJECTED.
WATERING DOWN IN TWENTY TWENTY.
FOR AN EVEN FOR THINGS FOR
CRIMES THAT WERE CHANGED FROM A
FELONY TO AMISDEMEANOR. UNDER
PROPERTY SEVEN THEY'RE STILL
MISDEMEANORS PEOPLE CAN STILL DO
UP TO A YEAR AND COUNTY JAIL FOR
DOING THAT SO SOMEONE SHOPLIFT-
YOU KNOW- SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS.
THEY CAN DO A YEAR AND COUNTY
JAIL AND WHAT I'VE HEARD OVER
AND OVER AGAIN A COMMUNITY
MEETINGS AS AND IN GENERAL
PEOPLE REPORT TO ME THAT A
POLICE OFFICER TOLD THEM. THAT
THEY CAN READ THEY CAN'T DO
ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PERSON WHO
TO SHOPLIFTED THREE HUNDRED
DOLLARS OR FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS.
BECAUSE A PROPERTY SEVEN THEY
CAN ARREST A PERSON THAT PERSON
CAN DO UP TO A YEAR IN COUNTY
JAIL IF THAT IS WHAT THE
PROCESS. OUR RESULTS IN. THE
POLICE CAN STILL ARREST THE
PERSON CAN STILL CHARGE HIM WITH
A CRIME- WE ALSO I DO NEED TO BE
CLEAR THAT YOU KNOW THE INCREASE
OF THE FELONY SHOPLIFTING
THRESHOLD TO NINE HUNDRED FIFTY
DOLLARS IN CALIFORNIA. LET'S
COMPARE THAT TO OTHER STATES I
CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE- WHAT
THE THRESHOLD IS IN TEXAS. NOT
NOT EXACTLY THE MOST LEFT THE
STATE IN THE WORLD IT'S MUCH
HIGHER THAN NINE HUNDRED FIFTY.
TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THERE
STATES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY
WHETHER THE FELONY THRESHOLD FOR
SHOPLIFTING IS SIGNIFICANTLY
HIGHER. THAN WHAT PROP FORTY
SEVEN- SET. FOR CALIFORNIA SO
INSTEAD OF SPENDING ALL THIS
TIME. TRYING TO REPEAL OR CHANGE
OR OR ROLL BACK PROP FORTY SEVEN
I REALLY WISH THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT WOULD INSTEAD FOCUS
ON. ACTUALLY USING THE TOOLS
THAT THEY HAVE. TO WITH CRIMES
AND THEY HAVE PLENTY OF TOOLS TO
DO THAT BUT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS
NOT. BE ABOUT ACTUALLY GIVING
LAW ENFORCEMENT MORE TOOLS ARE
MASON COMMUNITIES SAFER. THIS IS
ABOUT YOU KNOW LIKE. THE ABOUT.
THE POLITICAL MOMENT THAT WERE
AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT CRIME AND WE'RE ALL NONE
OF US WANTS CRIMES THAT OCCUR IN
OUR COMMUNITY. BUT WE'RE SEEING
PEOPLE TAKING ADVANTAGE. OF THE
GOVERNOR OF ANXIETY THAT PEOPLE
HAVE TO SIT IS BLAME IT ALL ON
PROP FORTY SEVEN. AND LET'S JUST
MASS INCARCERATED PEOPLE BECAUSE
IF SOMEONE STEALS FIVE HUNDRED
DOLLARS IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO PUT
THEM IN AND JAIL FOR A YEAR WE
WANT TO PUT IN JAIL FOR. FIVE
YEARS OR TEN YEARS OR FIFTEEN
YEARS AND DESTROY THE LIVES AND
MAKE IT SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
GET REHABILITATED. SO I
UNDERSTAND THE POLITICS AROUND
PROPERTY SEVEN ROUNDS BILLS LIKE
THIS- BUT ON THE MERITS- IT'S
JUST IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T
COMPUTE SO I'M VOTING NO. THANK
YOU YOU NEED A- DISK OF A PATH
COLLEGE. SOONER TROUBLE- I HAVE
A QUESTION. BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND
THAT THEY CAN BE ARRESTED I'M
KIND OF CURIOUS- FOR THE SHARE
OF THE RIVER SHERIFF ONLINE BUT
DO WE HAVE. OR THE STAFF TO THE
SHERIFF YES I'M I'M ON THE LINE
I HAVE A QUESTION- WHAT. DO WE
HAVE A WHAT ARE SOME OF THESE
CRIMES NOT BEING AB TAKEN TO
COURT WHAT ARE THE BE PROSECUTED
I HAVE A QUESTION WITH REGARDS
TO THAT AND THEN A FOLLOW UP
QUESTION BECAUSE- WHAT WE HAVE
LIMIT LET YOU. ANSWER THAT
QUESTION FIRST. WELL SENATOR I
THINK THAT I YOU KNOW I CAN'T
SPEAK FOR EVERY JURISDICTION AND
I DON'T KNOW HOW EACH
JURISDICTION HANDLES THAT. BUT
EIGHT BYE BYE LOWERING THE
CONSEQUENCE FOR THE CRIME IT HAS
THE PRACTICAL EFFECT OF THESE
INDIVIDUALS JUST BE INTERESTED
IN GOING BACK ON THE STREET
BEING ARRESTED AND GOING BACK ON
THE STREET SO EVEN IF WE DO
ARREST THEM THE PRACTICAL
EFFECT- RESULT BECAUSE OF THE
WAY OUR COURT SYSTEM IS BUT THEY
DO GET OUT ON THE STREET. WHEN
YOU HAVE A GREATER CONSEQUENCE
IT GIVES THE PROSECUTORS A
GREATER ABILITY TO. Q. HAVE A
MEAN FOR- I MEAN FULL AND
CONSEQUENCES THAT WILL ALLOW US
TO PERHAPS PUT THEM AND I'M
PROGRAM OR HOW THE GREATER
SERVICE THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO-
TO. PERFORM AND DO BETTER BUT I
THINK THAT THE MINIMAL
CONSEQUENCES AND WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT LOWERING THE
THRESHOLD LOWERING THE
THRESHOLD. A FOREIGNER- DIDN'T
REALLY DO WE AND WE ARE NOW THIS
BILL THAT LOWERED THRESHOLD THIS
BILL OKAY ADDRESS REPEAT
OFFENDERS BUT WHEN YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT SOMEONE THAT IS A
REPEAT OFFENDER THAT STEALING
OVER AND OVER AGAIN HAVING THAT
FELONY HANGING OVER. THEIR HEAD
IS A WAY TO HELP DISCOURAGE THAT
. OKAY SO M. THE REASON I'M
ASKING IS BECAUSE I THINK THE
PROBLEM THAT I HEAR FROM OUR
LOCAL BUSINESSESIN OUR AREA- AS
WELL AS HOMEOWNERS AND AB SOME
OF OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT
OFFICIALS. IS THE FACT THAT-
MANY OF THEM ARE NOT REPORTING
THESE CRIMES THAT ARE UNDER NINE
FIFTY BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING
TO COURT AND I'M JUST KIND OF
CURIOUS AS TO WHY. MANY OF THESE
ARE GOING UNDER REPORTED AND WHY
THEY'RE NOT GOING NOT NOT BEING
PROSECUTED BECAUSE THEY
CONSEQUENCES AREN'T REALLY WORTH
I GUESS THE TIME I'M I'M I'M
TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THE
CASE MAYBE BECAUSE THIS IS
TRYING TO ADDRESS PEOPLE WHO ARE
REPEAT OFFENDERS. WHO ARE DOING
IT MULTIPLE TIMES THEY HAVE
GREATER ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THOSE
ACTIONS. MISTER CHAIRMAN I AM
HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THE
GRADIENTS YEAH SO- THIS IS
SENATOR I HEAR EXACTLY THE SAME
THINGS- FROM MY- BUSINESS IS MY
DISTRICT AND FAT RIGHT AFTER
THIS BILL I HAVE TO STEP OUT TO
ZOOM. OUT WITH MERCHANTS IN
MCALESTER NEIGHBORHOOD AND IN MY
COMMUNITY EXACTLY ABOUT THESE
ISSUES THAT THEY ARE VERY FRONT
THE MERCHANTS ARE VERY
FRUSTRATED I DON'T BLAME THEM
THAT THE POLICE TELL THEM
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO. WE
CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND
SO IT'S NO WONDER THE MERCHANTS
STOP REPORTING BUT THAT IS
FALSE- THAT IS FALSE BECAUSE
THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE
DONE BECAUSE THE POLICE COMES TO
ARREST SOMEONE AND THEY CAN
STILL DO UP TO A YEAR IN COUNTY
JAIL AND IF THEY'RE REPEAT IF
THEY DO THREE. THE COULD DO UP
TO YEARS. IN COUNTY JAIL ON
THREE SEPARATE MISDEMEANORS- AND
THAT IS A CHOICE BY THE POLICE I
UNDERSTAND THAT IN SOME.
COUNTIES THAT THE POLICE GET
FRUSTRATED IF THE DA IS NOT
BRINGING THOSE OF THE SYSTEM IS
WHAT IT IS YOU HAVE THE POLICE
THE DA'S THE COURTS. AND THE
SYSTEM CAN BREAK DOWN AT ANY
POINT BUT IT'S NOT A PROBLEM
WITH THE LAW. IT'S ABOUT HOW
IT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED BY THE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND THE
MERCHANTS GOT CAUGHT IN THE
MIDDLE. AND THEN THEY'RE TOLD-
IT'S PROP FORTY SEVEN WHEN
THAT'S NOT TRUE. SO THAT DOCTORS
MY EXPERIENCE BOTH WHEN I WAS A
DISTRICT SUPERVISOR. POST PROP
FORTY SEVEN AND NOW IN MY ROLE
AS A AS A SENATOR. I HAVE A
QUESTION FOR THE AUTHOR- SENATE
DEBATE WHY DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS
IS IMPORTANT TO ACTUALLY
IMPLEMENT THIS BILL THAT WOULD
ACTUALLY TARGET PEOPLE
SPECIFICALLY FOR REPEAT
OFFENDERS WHY WHAT IS THE NEED
FOR THAT. THE NEED FR THAT IS
THE FACT THAT. PULLS FROM PRE
PROP FORTY SEVEN WE DIDN'T HAVE
THE SPATE OF THESE FILES-
REPEATED HEADED. SO THERE HAS TO
BE SOMETHING IN THAT THE
CRIMINAL ELEMENT THAT SAYS WE
CAN DO IT NOW SO IF THERE ARE
ALL STRONGER CONSEQUENCES AND
REMEMBER THIS IS REPEAT SO WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT RECIDIVISM. THIS
IS RECIDIVISM IS CONGRUENT TO
THE TERM CEREAL. AND THAT'S
WHAT'S HAPPENING SO TO STOP THAT
TO INTERCEPT IT WE NEED PEOPLE
WHO ARE IN OUR CORRECTIONAL
SYSTEM WHERE WE ARE NOW
PROVIDING RETRAINING BEHAVIOR
MODIFICATION. EDUCATION ALL
THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON IN
FACT THEY'RE GOING ON IN OUR
ORANGE COUNTY BEHAVIOR SYSTEM
WHICH ALLOWS SURE OF BARNES AND
OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITY
THERE IS STRONGLY BEHIND- THERE
IS AN ISSUE. THERE WOULDN'T BE
AN ISSUE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE PROP
FORTY SEVEN THAT INCREASE THE
AMOUNT TO NINE FIFTY IT ALL
STARTED THEN MAYBE THAT'S THE
PART THAT KEEPS TO BE. BEING
KIND OF OBLITERATED HERE IN THE
CONVERSATIONS THAT GO WAY INTO
YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE IN
PRISON UP AND YOU KNOW WHEN
BILLION DOLLAR SPENT. THE MONEY
THAT SPENT ON PRINT PRISONS BY
THE WAY IS TO PROTECT PUBLIC
SAFETY THESE ARE THE VERY
SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS- PEOPLE
WHO'VE BEEN ON THE STREETS THAT
HAD HE ASCRIBES WE'RE NOT
TALKING ABOUT THAT WAS SOMEONE
WHO CONTINUALLY. OF TAKES TO IT
NINE HUNDRED NINE HUNDRED
DOLLARS OF GOODS OUT OF A
STORAGE DRUGS OR WHATEVER THEY
HAVE CALCULATORS. YOU'RE TELLING
ME THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE
DOING AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE ON
THE ON THE LET'S SAY THE LICENSE
TO DO THAT WITH THE- PROP FORTY
SEVEN READ INCREASING IT TO NINE
HUNDRED OF COURSE THEY DID. SO
THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO SAY. DONE
CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE AND IF YOU
DO IT FOUR TIMES YOU'RE GOING TO
GET ON INCARCERATIONS IN THE AN
INCARCERATION YOU'RE GOING TO
GET BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION ALL
THE WONDERFUL THINGS WE STARTED
WITH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
REFORM. I'M TOTALLY FOR THAT.
BUT YOU CANNOT CONTINUE TO LET
IT HAPPEN AND SO THIS IS AN
ATTEMPT TO LET THE VOTERS DECIDE
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVE
BROUGHT IT TO US INTO SURVEYS
THAT HAVE GONE ON POST. TWENTY
TWENTY ONE WHEN THIS IS BECOMING
RAMPANT. AND THEY'RE SAYING LET
US CHANGE THIS ONE A LITTLE PART
OF PROP FORTY SEVEN TO BE
CHANGED TO ALLOW THE PROSECUTORS
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TO CONTINUE
EFFORTS TO ENSURE THERE ISN'T
RECIDIVISM FROM OUR PRISONS AND
OUR JAILS. SO IT TO ME IT'S A
COMMON SENSE THING I IN TERMS OF
HUMAN BEHAVIOR AND WE NEED TO
CORRECT THAT LIKE WE DO WITH YOU
KNOW OUR CHILDREN WHO CONTINUE
TO DO THE THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T.
YOU KNOW TO GET A TIME OUT
WHATEVER IT IS SOLD TO ME AS OF
IT'S A SOFT. MODIFICATION OF
PROP FORTY SEVEN IF THE VOTERS
CHOOSE TO DO THAT IT'S NOT A
MAJOR REPEAL OF IT IT JUST
STARTS OFF. THE CLOCK COME OUT
AND I JUST. LIKE TO SAY I THINK
IT'S SO DISRESPECTFUL INTERESTED
IN OUR PUBLIC SAFETY CA. AND
TAKE ON LAW FORCED. AS BEING
DESIGNED. NOT TELLING THE-
REALLY. THEY ARE OUT THERE WITH
THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE EVERY
DAY. DOING THE GOOD DEEDS OF
KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY SAFE. AND
THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE PUTS OUR
COMMUNITIES AT RISK AND WE KNOW
THAT FROM WHAT HAS HAPPENED. SO
THAT'S WHY I INTRODUCED THE BILL
. AND ON YOU KNOW I WILL
CONTINUE TO TRY TO WORK WITH OUR
PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WORK
WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PERHAPS
WORK WITH OUR PROSECUTORS AND
THOSE WHO ARE INVOLVED WITH OUR
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHAT DO THEY
NEED TO DO IN TERMS OF
PARTNERSHIPS TO HELP MOVE THIS.
ALONG IN CHANGE SO THAT WE CAN
GET THESE PEOPLE ARE BCK WHERE
THEY OUGHT TO BE YOU KNOW
CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY INSTEAD
OF HAVING A HUGE BURDEN ON
SOCIETY AND THREATENING THE
PUBLIC SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES
. THANK YOU VERY MUCH- SO
FOLLOWING UP ON THAT I JUST
WANTED TO CONDUCT A- AND CORRECT
ME IF I'M WRONG BUT FOR THE MOST
PART I UNDERSTAND THAT
MISDEMEANORS ARE GENERALLY CITE
AND RELEASE VERSUS ACTUALLY-
SERVING- A LOT OF TIME. AND
THIS. YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF YOU
BELIEVE THAT IS INCORRECT AT
THROUGH THE CHAIR. OF THE AND
THEN THE OTHER THING THAT I
WANTED TO NOTE I APPRECIATE THE
FACT THAT YOU STATED THAT THIS
FOR REPEAT OFFENDER GO. YOU KNOW
DECIDED FOURTH FOR THE FOURTH
TIME IN MOVING FORWARD I'M KIND
OF CURIOUS AS TO HOW MANY
INDIVIDUALS GO. OR HOW MANY.
INCIDENTS GO UNREPORTED. SO
ALTHOUGH I HEAR SOME CONCERNS
WITH REGARDS TO NUMBERS THAT THE
NUMBERS ARE FALSE- WITH REGARDS
TO THE REPORTING THE NUMBER THE
INCREASE OF CRIMES I'M JUST KIND
OF CURIOUS TO KNOW WHETHER OR
NOT. ANY OF THEM AREN'T THERE'S
AN INCIDENT A NUMBER OF THEM
THAT ARE NOT BEING REPORTED. I'M
BECAUSE THEY JUST DON'T WANT TO
GO THROUGH THROUGH THE PROCESS
OF JUST DOING A SITE RELEASED.
COULD HAVE- NO AND THEN THE
OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO
COMMENT- SORRY THAT MY NOTES
HERE- IS THAT- I ACTUALLY
APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU
HAVE THIS BILL- MOVING FORWARD
BECAUSE I'M ONCE AGAIN IT'S
ADDRESSING THE ISSUE WITH REPEAT
OFFENDERS THAT FOUR OR MORE
HOLDING THEM ACCOUNTABLE MAYBE
TO A HIGHER DEGREE THAT ALLOWS
HIM TO PUT HIM IN THE SYSTEM
RIGHT NOW THAT- RIGHT NOW WITH
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM AND
EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND
WE'RE HAVING WITH THE IN OUR
SYSTEM. AND FOCUSING ON EDGE
EDUCATION FOCUSING ON BEHAVIOR
MODIFICATION AND FOCUSING ON-
COUNSELING AND SO FORTH IT
ACTUALLY MIGHT BE A DETERRENT IN
IN A BILL IN A IN A WAY IN A
MEANS BY WHICH PEOPLE MIGHT JUST
GO- YOU KNOW WHAT LET'S CHANGE
BECAUSE SOME OF THE CONCERNS
THAT I'VE HEARD ON IN THIS
COMMITTEE ACTUALLY IS THAT
PEOPLE THAT COMMIT CRIMES ARE
DOING IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
OTHER ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES.
AND LO BEHOLD WHAT AN
OPPORTUNITY SPECIAL FOR THOSE
REPEAT OFFENDERS TO BE IN A
SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THEM TO GET
AN EDUCATION FORCES THEM TO
FOCUS ON EDUCATION AND BEHAVIOR
MODIFICATION EXITING THE SYSTEM
WITH- THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO
SCHOOL OR HAVE A CAREER- MOVING
OUTSIDE OF THE SYSTEMS ARE
CHANGING THE ATMOSPHERE IN WHICH
WERE SO I ACTUALLY APPRECIATE
THE ROLE IN MANY FOR HAPS WE DO
NEED TO. ADDRESS THIS
DIFFERENTLY FOR THOSE REPEAT
OFFENDERS FOR TIME IN OVER ON
THAT END AND LASTLY WHEN WE LOOK
AT THESE ISSUES. AB CASE BY CASE
SAYING YOU KNOW IT'S WELL WE
RAISED FROM FORTY TO NINE FIFTY
INSTEAD OKAY NOW. THIS IS A
MISDEMEANOR NOT A FELONY IF YOU
IF YOU THE SHOPLIFT WHETHER OR
NOT IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT OR A BIG
AMOUNT COMPARISON TO OTHER
STATES. IT'S AN AMOUNT OF MONEY
THAT. FOR MOST CONSUMERS HE GETS
TRANSFERRED ONTO ALL OF US SO
ALTHOUGH WE'RE NOT PAYING IT
THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE. AT
SPACE WE ARE PAYING FOR IT IN
OTHER PARTS AS CONSUMERS IN OUR
COMMUNITIES. I'M AND THAT IS A
COST TO ALL OF US WHO HAVE TO BE
CARRY ON THE BURDEN AS WELL
WITHOUT HAVING THE ABILITY. TO
PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS
INDIVIDUALS TO ACTUALLY HAVE-
ONE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THEIR
ACTIONS AND NUMBER TWO YOU AN
OPPORTUNITY TO. HAVE
MODIFICATION- PROGRAMS AND
EDUCATIONAL. EDUCATIONAL
OPPORTUNITIES THAT OTHERWISE
THEY WOULDN'T BE COMPELLED TO
DO. AND LASTLY- LET'S SEE- ONE
LAST COMMENT THAT I DO WANT TO
MAKE IS THAT THIS IS WHY I'M
SUCH AN ADVOCATE FOR HAVING
SUPPORT AND RESOURCES FOR
FAMILIES AND PARENTING. BECAUSE
WE NEED TO START BE ABLE TO
REALLY FOCUS ON QUALITY
EDUCATION SO THAT EVERYONE THAT
GRADUATES FROM HIGH SCHOOLS OR
ATTENDS OUR SCHOOLS HAS THAT
QUALITY OF EDUCATION SO THAT
THEY CAN HAVE ECONOMIC
OPPORTUNITIES- MOVING FORWARD.
THIS IS WHY WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON
OUR PARENTING OUR FAMILIES TO
GIVING THEM THE RESOURCES AND
THE ABILITY TO HAVE QUALITY OF
LIFE SO THEY'RE NOT COMMUTING
THREE OR FOUR. TIMES HAVING TO
WORK AT THREE OR OUR JOBS ON
THAT AND WE HAVE TO WORK IN THE
COST OF LIVING BECAUSE WE HAVE
TO DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN
SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES. TO GIVE
OUR CHILDREN GREAT OPPORTUNITIES
MOVING FORWARD SO I JUST WANTED
TO PLUG THAT IN BECAUSE I TRULY
TRULY BELIEVE. THAT IN ORDER FOR
US TO CHANGE ALL OF THIS IT HAS
TO START IN THE FAMILY IN THE
HOME WITH SUPPORTIVE
ENVIRONMENTS WITH QUALITY
EDUCATION SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE.
A THRIVING AND- IMMENSE
OPPORTUNITY SO ANYWAY THANK YOU
THAT ANY OTHER SENATOR CALM
WATER. THANK YOU- MISTER
CHAIRMAN I TO UNFORTUNATELY WILL
NOT BE ABLE TO- SUPPORT THIS
BILL I- ONE ECHO MANY OF THE
SENTIMENT SHARED BY MY COLLEAGUE
FROM SAN FRANCISCO- YOU KNOW FOR
MISDEMEANORS I THINK FOR THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA IT CAN BE UP
TO A YEAR IN COUNTY JAIL- IN
THEIR TWO LEVELS OF MISDEMEANORS
STANDARD OR GROSS AND SO IT'S
MORE THAN JUST KIND OF A SITE-
YOU KNOW AND RELEASED I THINK
pWHAT HAPPENS IS- THE ISSUE IS
NOT THE LAW IT'S THE
IMPLEMENTATION OR THE
ENFORCEMENT. AND I BELIEVE IN
FACT I HAVE TALKED TO FOLKS FROM
LAW ENFORCEMENT WHO SAY THAT
THEY FEEL IN THESE INSTANCES
THAT THERE'S VERY LITTLE REWARD
YOU KNOW IT STILL TAKES TIME TO-
CHARGE SOMEONE TO PROCESS
PAPERWORK TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT
WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE COURTS
DJS ARE NOT THAT EXCITED IT
DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH
BANG FOR THE BUCK AND I AND I
KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANT TO GO
AFTER LARGER CASES THEY WANT
LARGER CONVICTIONS THEY WANT BIG
SPREADS IN THE NEWSPAPER THAT
SAY WE CAME IN LIKE THE CALGARY
AND WE FIXED. AND MISDEMEANORS
DOES NOT OFFER THAT IT IS LIKE A
SLUG OF A OF WORK. ARM BUT. SO
WHAT DO YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE
TO CITE YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE
TO CHARGE COURTS HAVE A LOT OF
DISCRETION AT THEIR DISPOSAL
JUDGES CAN COMPEL DEFENDANTS- TO
TAKE CERTAIN CLASSES YOU KNOW
THINGS CAN BE OFFERED IN PLEA
AGREEMENTS THAT WORK TOWARDS
BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION THERE ARE
THINGS THAT CAN BE DONE TOOLS
ALREADY AT THE DISPOSAL OF BOTH
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE COURTS
AND PROSECUTORS IT IS DO DO WE
WANT TO DO THOSE THINGS AND I
THINK THAT I MEAN WHAT WE'RE
SEEING IS FOLKS ARE NOT THAT
INTERESTED IN DOING THAT EXTRA
WORK. AND IT'S ALSO WHAT'S TRUE
IS THAT I JUST THINK THERE'S
GROWING RESENTMENT AND IT'S ALL
FOR FALLING ON THE SHOULDERS OF
PROP FORTY SEVEN BUT THAT'S
ABOUT THE VOTERS AND SO I THINK
WE NEED TO JUST IF YOU KNOW
LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS- ND WITH
THOSE SO I ACTUALLY DID SOME
RESEARCH WHILE LISTENING TO- ALL
OF THE COMMENTS. IN ONLY NINE
STATES HAVE A FELONY THRESHOLD
LOWER THAN OURS ALABAMA GEORGIA
LOUISIANA TEXAS VIRGINIA I MEAN
AND THESE ARE NOT SOFT ON CRIME
STATES- AND EVEN. SO I JUST
THINK NO THERE HAVE HIGHER ONES.
MY BAD. TEXAS'S TWENTY FIVE
HUNDRED. SO WE- JUST SHOULD NOT
BE FIDDLING WITH THIS IN ALL OF
THESE DIFFERENT WAYS WE SHOULD
ACTUALLY BE GOING BACK TO LAW
ENFORCEMENT TO FIGURE OUT AND
THE COURTS PUBLIC DEFENDERS
PROSECUTORS. AND HAVE A KIND OF
A COME TO JESUS ABOUT HOW WE
BETTER IMPLEMENT OR EMPLOYEE OR
OFFER RESOURCES TO THE TOOLS
THAT ARE ALREADY AT THE DISPOSAL
OF ALL OF THESE ENTITIES WORKING
IN THIS SPACE- AND WE DON'T WANT
TO DO THAT SO WE JUST WANT MORE
LAWS MORE LAWS MARK MORE LAWS
THAT LAYER CONFUSION. AND ANGER
YOU KNOW ON FOLKS DOING THE WORK
AND ALSO PEOPLE TRYING TO FIX
THE SYSTEM SO I AM UNFORTUNATELY
FOR ALL OF THOSE REASONS AND
THEN SOMEONE NOT BE ABLE TO
SUPPORT THIS BILL. THANK YOU
MANY OTHERS DISCUSSION INNOVATE
BY COLLEGE. MISTER BRIDGES
PONDERING ONE THING. TO BE
ELIGIBLE FOR THE IT ADDED
PUNISHMENT OF THIS BILL YOU HAVE
TO HAVE BEEN CONVICTED MULTIPLE
TIMES. OF PETTY THEFT SO THE
PEOPLE WHO WILL BE CAUGHT UP IN
THIS ARE PEOPLE WHERE THE SYSTEM
WAS ACTUALLY ARRESTING THEM
CHARGING THEM PROSECUTING THEM
TRYING THEM AND CONVICTING THEM
ALREADY SO THIS MEANS THE SYSTEM
WAS WORKING AND SO THIS IS THE
PEOPLE IN COLUMBUS BY THIS BILL.
OR NOT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST
CLEARING OUT SHELVES WALKING OUT
AND NOTHING'S HAPPENING TO THEM
TO PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY BEEN
CONVICTED REPEATEDLY THIS BILL
IS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY ARE
YOU IT'S ABOUT POLITICS NOT
ABOUT POLICY. YES SO WITHOUT
REGARD ME WE THINK ABOUT THE
FACT THAT YOU'RE RIGHT THIS IS
FOR REPEAT PEOPLE THAT HAVE
ACTUALLY BEEN GONE THROUGH THE
SYSTEM THAT IT ACTUALLY WORKS
BUT THIS WOULD AFFECT IT WOULD
COMPEL PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GO
THROUGH THE PROCESS AND MAKE
SURE THAT IT IS COMPLETED
BECAUSE THEY WILL BE AT A
GREATER CONSEQUENCE AM I CORRECT
ON THAT AND- YOU CAN YOU CAN
CORRECT ME IF I'M IF I'M WRONG
BUT IN THAT IS EXACTLY WHY WE
SHOULD HAVE BECAUSE IF IT'S
ALREADY IN PLACE AND IT'S A
SYSTEM THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT
FOLLOWING THROUGH PERHAPS THE
FACT THAT WE DO HAVE THE FOURTH
TIME. BEING OF A GREATER
CONSEQUENCE WOULD ACTUALLY
COMPELLED PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GO
THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND USE
WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN PLACE SO I
JUST THOUGHT YOU KNOW YOU MEAN
THINK ABOUT THAT I'M LIKE OH
THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT MAYBE
THE REASON THEY DON'T DO IT IS
BECAUSE THERE'S NOT SOMETHING
GREATER- AFTER THE FACT BUT WITH
THIS BILL PERHAPS HAVING THAT
FOURTH WOULD ACTUALLY COMPEL
PEOPLE TO FILL THE CURRENT
PROCESS. THANK YOU SENATOR
SKINNER. I THINK. THE ONLY
ADDITION I'D WANT TO MAKE IS
THAT. FOR US TO MINIMIZE THE
CONSEQUENCE OF UP TO A YEAR IN
COUNTY JAIL I'M SORRY THERE IS
YOU KNOW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO
SPEND ANY TIME IN A COUNTY JAIL.
THAT AND SO WE ARE DEBATING AS
IF SOME LONGER PERIOD IN STATE
PRISON IS GOING TO BE A FACTOR
IN SOMEONE'S MIND ABOUT THIS NOT
COUNTY. IT I DO NOT WANT TO
SPEND TIME IN COUNTY JAILS SO I
DON'T THINK THIS ISSUE OF THE
DETERRENT IS IT IS MUCH MORE THE
WAY IT'S ENFORCED VERSES THAT
THAT WE NEED A BIGGER DETERRENT
SO JUST JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON
THE RECORD THERE ARE SERIOUS
CONSEQUENCES TO SPENDING ANY
TIME IN COUNTY JAIL YOU ARE NOT
WORKING YOUR NOT BEING ABLE TO
PROVIDE FOR YOUR FAMILY YOU HAVE
A RECORD IT AFFECTS YOUR ABILITY
TO GET A JOB IT AFFECTS YOUR
ABILITY TO RENT A PLACE IT
AFFECTS SO MUCH. AND OF COURSE
YOUR LITERALLY IN COUNTY JAIL SO
DON'T MINIMIZE WHAT THE
DETERRENT OF ANY TIME IN ANY IN
CART CARCERAL FACILITY. THANK
YOU I THINK WE'VE EXHAUSTED THE
DEBATE AND- YOU THINK. OKAY WELL
AS I JUST WANNA ADD THERE IS
MISINFORMATION BY LAW
ENFORCEMENT. AND I'VE TENDED
PLENTY OF COMMUNITY MEETINGS
WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS STOOD
UP IN THE ROOM AND SAYS OUR
HANDS ARE TIED BECAUSE OF PROP
FORTY SEVEN WE CAN NO LONGER
ARREST FOLKS BECAUSE OR WE CAN'T
BUT IT'S NOW A MISDEMEANOR AND
WILL REST IN THE RELEASE YOU
WANNA KNOW TO MISDEMEANOR STAT
POLICE ARE ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR
EVERY DAY AND THEY NEVER SAID WE
DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO
IT. IS DO YOU LIVE IN DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE THOSE TWO ARE
MISDEMEANORS AND THEY HAVE NOT
STOPPED ARRESTING PEOPLE FOR
THAT SO IT'S A MATTER OF CHOICE
AND I THINK AS ARTS CENTER
COMMERCE STATED ABOUT THE BANG
FOR THE BUCK A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
ARREST OR DO YOU AYE REST IS FAR
MORE. YOU KNOW HAD YOU KNOW
TENSION GRABBING THAN A SMASH
AND GRAB AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN
INCREASED AND CRIME SINCE THE
PASTOR FOR POP FORTY SEVEN WE
HAVE SEEN THAT UPTICK IN THE
LAST TWO YEARS A SMASH AND GRAB
AND- AND IN THESE RUSHES INTO
THE DEPARTMENT STORE WHY BECAUSE
A PROP FORTY SIX I MEAN OUT OF
THE- THE PANDEMIC. MOST OF THE
STORES HAVE BEEN UNDERSTAFFED
BAR NO ONE'S IN THE STORES AND
IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE
THEY CAN GO IN MOST OF THE
STORES ALSO HAVE BEEN CALLS AND
THEY'RE COMING IN AND BREAKING
INTO THE STORES SO. THE PANDEMIC
IS KIND OF SPURRED WHAT WE'VE
SEEN IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF
TWO YEARS BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S
BEEN AT HOME OR WATCHING IT ON
TV BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN AN
INCREASE OVER ON CRIME SO I TO
HAVE A ISSUE WITH THIS I
UNDERSTAND THAT AUTHORS INTENT.
BUT I THINK HISTORY HAS SHOWN
THAT- INCREASING CRIME I MEAN
UP. HAVE DETERRED ARE. THREE
STRIKES OF THE FOLKS WHEN IT WAS
ON THE BOOKS SO I DON'T THINK
THIS IS GOING TO DETER FOLKS AS
AS WELL AND AGAIN- THEY'RE STILL
ARRESTING FOLKS FOR.
MISDEMEANORS SUCH AS DELIGHTS IN
THE MYSTIC VIOLENCE- THEIR HANDS
ARE NOT TIGHT THERE SO WHY
SHOULD THEIR HANDS BE TIED. WHEN
IT COMES TO- PETTY THEFT. SO IS
THERE A MOTION FOR THIS ROGER
I'M OF THE MOTION. WAS REMOVED
IT'S BEEN- IT'S BEEN MOVED BY
SENATOR BALL. IT'S A DO PASS BUT
REFERRED TO THE- APPROPRIATIONS
COUNCIL PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON
THE STREET ELEVEN OH EIGHT S. B.
ELEVEN OH EIGHT BRADFORD
BRADFORD NO CHOI BOGUE I TROUBLE
GUY COME LONGER NO COME UNDER NO
SKINNER. SKINNER NO WINNER
WINNER NOW. ONE TO FOUR. ONE THE
FOR THAT MEASURE PASSED ME FILES
. AND THIRTY YOU DIDN'T LET ME
DO MY CLOSING SO I'M ARMS I AM
SO SORRY. HEY WELL- LET ME JUST
SAY FIRST OF OCT- SINCE YOU'RE
YOU'RE YOU'RE RIGHT I APOLOGIZE
GO AHEAD AND DO YOUR CLOTHES BUT
I JUST WANT TO CONCLUDE WITH
WHAT IS WHAT IS ON THE BOOKS NOW
GOING BACK CAN WE RESEND THE
VOTE- MERRY AND ALLOW HER TO
CLOSE IN. ARE WE CAN NO NOT WHEN
IT'S AND NOT WHEN IT FAILS OKAY
ARE. YOU CAN YOU BECAUSE
OTHERWISE RECONSIDERATION HAVE
TO BE THE NEXT DAY OKAY ARE OKAY
. YOU MAY CLOSE THANK YOU I JUST
WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE
CONSIDERATION A LOT OF FUN
INFORMATION AND OPINIONS COME
FORWARD IN THESE HEARINGS ABOUT
WHAT WE NEED TO DO WITH THE
PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE LAWS THAT
ARE CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS BUT I
THINK THIS WOULD I CAN'T NOT TO
CLOSE WITH THIS WHAT WE
CURRENTLY HAVE. ON PROP FORTY
SEVEN SERIAL PHELPS IS NOT
WORKING BECAUSE THEY DO IT OVER
AND OVER AND OVER AND THAT'S WHY
THEY HAVE BEEN CONVICTED THEY'VE
GONE TO COURT IN THE BACK ON THE
STREET DOING IT AGAIN IS A FULL
EMPLOYMENT OUT FOR PEOPLE WHO
FIGURED OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK
SO IT HAS TO BE CHANGED- THE
VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN THREE SURVEYS
THAT THEY WANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT LITTLE
PART- AND I THINK THEY DESERVE
AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON
THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE THE
VICTIMS. ARE STILL WITHOUT AGAIN
THANK YOU AND- ALLOWS FOR
RECONSIDERATION. THANK YOU
REQUESTED WILL BE GRANTED THANK
YOU. SENATOR BACKER. SB TWELVE
TWENTY THREE WHEN YOU'RE READY
YOU MAY BEGIN. TWENTY MEMBERS SB
TWELVE TWENTY THREE WILL ENSURE
THAT MORE CALIFORNIANS RECEIVE
MENTAL HEALTH SUPPORT RESOURCES
THEY NEED A SAFE INCREASING USEOF MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION
APPROPRIATE CASES. IT IS
RESEARCH AND RECOMMENDED BY THE
COMMITTEE ON THE REVISION OF THE
PENAL CODE AFTER THEY FOUND THAT
THE MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION HAS
BEEN SUBSTANTIALLY UNDER
UTILIZED. OVER THIRTY THOUSAND
PEOPLE CALIFORNIA PRISONS IS
ROUGHLY A THIRD OF THE TOTAL
POPULATION RECEIVE MENTAL HEALTH
TREATMENT. BUT IT'S WELL
DOCUMENTED CHOSEN PRISONS ARE
POORLY SUITED FOR THE TREATMENT
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES. AND
INCARCERATION OFTEN LEADS TO
WORSENING OF INDIVIDUALS
CONDITION. DISHING COURT AT THE
LOS ANGELES DIRECTOR MENTAL
HEALTH L. A. COUNTY JAIL SYSTEM
IS THE NATION'S LARGEST MENTAL
HEALTH INSTITUTION. AS 50% OF
THOSE DETAINED LA JAILS HAVE
IDENTIFIED MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS.
THIS BILL STREAMLINES
ELIGIBILITY FOR MENTAL DIVERSION
BY RECOGNIZING THAT IN MOST
CASES INDIVIDUAL IS ELIGIBLE IF
THEY'VE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH
MENTAL DISORDER. IMPORTANTLY IT
ALSO PRESERVES JUDICIAL
DISCRETION. TO DETERMINE IF
DIVERSIONS APPROPRIATE. ADVISE
THE COURT CAN FIND SOMEONE IN
ELIGIBLE FOR DIVERSION BY
REQUEST OF THE PROSECUTION.
BERNIE FOR MISDEMEANORS MAKES
APPEAR TO VERSION ONE YEAR
INSTEAD OF TWO THESE DECREASES
COSTS FOR DIVERSION AND MAKES
DIVERSION PERIOD EQUIPMENT THE
PROBATION PERIOD MISDEMEANORS
REMOVING DISINCENTIVES FOR
INDIVIDUALS CONSIDERING WHETHER
ACCEPTED VERSION. DELL'ISIS
CONSIST WITH WHETHER STATES HAVE
DONE IT'S MORE COMPASSIONATE
THAN JAIL AND PRISON AND IT'S
MUCH MORE LIKELY TO WORK. I HAVE
WORKED CLOSELY WITH JUDICIAL
COUNCIL C. B. D. A. N. A. C. L.
U. R. BILL SPONSORS NUMEROUS
JUSTICE ADVOCATES RUN SUPPORT.
THERE'S NO LISTED OPPOSITION.
I'VE TWO SPEAKERS READY TO
TESTIFY TODAY. ALL RIGHT WE HAVE
GOT TO CURE AND- NIFT STEWART
ALTON SO. YOU BOTH WILL HAVE TWO
MINUTES SO IF YOU'RE PREPARED
YOU MAY BEGIN YOUR TESTIMONY IN
SUPPORT. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
TESTIFIED TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE
LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA PUBLIC
DISSENT UNDER DISSOCIATION. ON A
MORE PERSONAL NOTE I'M ALSO
SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF
FAMILIES LIKE MY OWN- WHICH HAVE
CHILDREN LIVING WITH MENTAL
ILLNESS. IT OPENSECRETS THAT OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS LONG
BEEN THE DUMPING GROUND FOR
MENTALLY ILL CALIFORNIANS THE
FACT IS MADE PAINFULLY CLEAR TO
ME ON MY FIRST DAY AS A PUBLIC
DEFENDER. MY VERY FIRST CLIENTS
NAME WAS DONALD HE SUFFERS FROM
SCHIZOPHRENIA DONALD BROKE INTO
THE GETTY MUSEUM AFTER HOURS AND
PROCLAIM HIS DIVINITY TO A
PASSING SECURITY GUARD. IN COURT
I SPOKE WITH HIM IN HIS ELDERLY
MOTHER IN CLICK DISCOVERED HE
HAD A LONG HISTORY OF MENTAL
ILLNESS HE DID NOT HIS
MEDICATION AT THE TIME OF THE
INCIDENT. HE WAS A SWEET BUT
CONFUSED MAN WHO CLEARLY LOVED
HIS MOM. THE EVENING AFTER HIS
ARRAIGNMENT TERRIFIED HE BE SENT
TO JAIL. DONALD HIMSELF IN THE
TWO BEDROOM HOUSE HE SHARED WITH
HIS MOM- FACT I LEARNED THE NEXT
MORNING WHEN SHE ARRIVED IN
COURT ALONE. I COULD TELL YOU
OTHER STORIES. I COULD TELL YOU
ABOUT MY NINETEEN YEAR OLD
CLIENT WHO IN THE GRIPS OF
DELUSION REPEATEDLY SLAMMED HIS
OWN FACE INTO THE WALL OF HIS
COURTROOM CELL. KNOCKING AT HIS
OWN TEETH MINUTES BEFORE HIS
FIRST COURT APPEARANCE. WELL HIS
DAMAGE FACING THE LOOKS ON HIS
PARENTS FACES WHEN YOU THAT
ACTUALLY BROUGHT OUT TO COURT
WILL ALWAYS REMAIN WITH ME. I
MUST CONFESS TO YOU THAT THINGS
LIKE THIS HAPPEN SO FREQUENTLY
IN CRIMINAL COURT THAT I CAN'T
EVEN REMEMBER HIS NAME. I TELL
YOU THESE STORIES BECAUSE THEY
WANT TO CONVEY TO YOU HOW DEEPLY
WE NEED BETTER EASIER PATHWAYS
TO GET THOSE SUFFERING FROM
MENTAL ILLNESS OUT OF THE
CRIMINAL SYSTEM. AND INTO THE
TREATMENT SYSTEM. ONE CURRENT
PATHWAYS CALIFORNIA'S
GROUNDBREAKING MENTAL HEALTH
DIVERSION LAW. WITH HIS HELP WE
HAVE ALREADY DIVERTED THOUSANDS
OF MEN AND WOMEN INTO MEETING
FOR TREATMENT INSTEAD OF
POINTLESSLY WAREHOUSING THEM IN
JAILS AND PRISONS. THE CURRENT
STATUTE HOWEVER STILL NEEDS WORK
BECAUSE IT NEEDLESSLY RESTRICTS
COURTS DIVERSION. AND ABILITY TO
DIVERT MENTALLY ILL CALIFORNIANS
INTO TREATMENT. THIS BILL
SLIGHTLY EASES MENTAL HEALTH
DIVERSION REQUIREMENTS BY
CREATING A PRESUMPTION THAT
THERE IS A CONNECTION BETWEEN
THE PERSON'S MENTAL HEALTH
CONDITION AND THEIR OFFENSE. THE
BILL IS NOT A MANDATE IT DOES
NOT REQUIRE COURT TO GRANT
VERSION. INSTEAD SIMPLY DON'T
GIVE COURTS THE ABILITY TO
PORTER AT DEFENSE INTO TREATMENT
WHEN DOING SO IS IN THE BEST%
INTEREST OF THE SENATE. AND THE
BEST MEANS OF PROTECTING PUBLIC
SAFETY. GIVEN THE STUDY AFTER
STUDY SHOWS A DIVERTING MENTALLY
ILL OUT OF THE CRIMINAL. JUSTICE
SYSTEM AND INTO TREATMENT
GREATLY REDUCES THE LIKELIHOOD
THAT THEY WILL RE OFFEND WE
RESPECTFULLY URGE THIS COMMITTEE. TO SUPPORT TWELVE TWENTY
THREE. THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS
MEASURE. GOOD MORNING CATHY
SHARON HALF OF THE ACLU CAL
ACTION- WE ARE PROUD TO SPONSOR
AT THE TOP THREE- AFTER MISTER
STEWART I WOULDN'T I THINK I
HARDLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT HOW
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT AND MUCH
NEEDED THIS BILL AS BUT I WANT
TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF THE
STATE. BACKGROUND AT TWELVE
TWENTY. DAYS THE FIRST
RECOMMENDATION THE TWENTY TWENTY
ONE RECORD OF THE CALIFORNIA
COMMITTEE ON REVISION. OF THAT
REPORT. NOTE THE ALARMINGLY HIGH
PREVALENCE OF MENTAL ILLNESS IN
CALIFORNIA'S PRISON AND JAIL
POPULATION. NEARLY A HIRD OF
ALL CALIFORNIA PRISONERS RECEIVE
MENTAL HEALTH ST. LOS ANGELES
COUNTY POPULATION WITH MENTAL
HEALTH CONDITIONS HAVE DOUBLED
OVER THE PAST DECADE. MORE THAN
FIVE THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED
PEOPLE- GAMBLE ARE NOT THE RIGHT
PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO RECEIVE
MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT. AND THE
INCARCERATIONS OF PERSONS WITH
MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS OFTEN HAVE
TRAGIC RESULTS. THE BILL FEIG
RATE IN CALIFORNIA JAILS
INCREASED BY 31% FROM THE YEAR.
TWO THOUSAND FIVE AT NIGHT. IN
THOUSAND AND THE LEGISLATURE
ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THE BY
CREATING A NEW MENTAL HEALTH
DIVERSION MOB PEOPLE CODE
SECTION ONE THOUSAND POINT FIVE.
UNDER THE DIVERSION. COURTS CAN
DIVERT PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH
CONDITIONS YOU COMMITTED
MISDEMEANORS AND NOT FELONIES
OUT OF THE CRIMINAL AND INTO
TREATMENT IF THEY DO NOT POSE AN
UNREASONABLE DANGER TO PUBLIC
SAFETY. UNFORTUNATELY THAT
PROGRAM IS UNDER UTILIZED IN
PART BECAUSE THE REQUIREMENTS IN
EXISTING LAW THAT THE COURT
FINDS THAT THE DEFENDANT'S
MENTAL CONDITION. SANTA WE
CONTRIBUTED TO THE COMMISSION OF
THE OFFENSE. THIS IS UNLIKE
OTHER DIVERSIONS STATUTES IN
CALIFORNIA INCLUDING THE
MILITARY TO CREATE FILE THE
VERSION. OF PROGRAM AND AFTER
INSPIRATION. CHANGE PROPOSED IN
SB TWELVE TWENTY THREE WILL
ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE
IN MENTAL HEALTH DIVERSION BY
RECOGNIZING THAT IN MOST CASES.
AN INDIVIDUAL IS ELIGIBLE IF
THEY HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH A
MENTAL DISORDER. THE COURT WILL
STILL HAVE THE DISCRETION TO
DETERMINE IF THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN THE MENTAL DISORDER AND
THE CLIENT IS NOT. THERE IN A
PARTICULAR CASE. YEAH ADDITION
THE BUILDER MOVE GET THEIR- FOR
CHARGE WITH. PAPERS MAKING THE
CARRIED THE PERSIAN ONE YEAR.
EQUAL TO THE PROBE CARE ACT FROM
THE. AGAIN WE ARE TO SPONSOR AT
THE TWENTY THREE WE ASK FOR
SUPPORT THE IMPORTANT. GREAT NOW
WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE
COMMITTEE HEARING ROOM. ANYONE
HERE IN TWO. TO INTO A WHO WISH
TO TESTIFY. IN SUPPORT. OF S.
STREET TO THREE. TRANSACTION
MISTER BEHALF OF SMART JUSTICE
CALIFORNIANS SUPPORT THANK YOU.
FIDDLER ON BEHALF OF
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT THANK YOU.
NOW MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR
PHONE LINE TO THEATERS CALLERS
WISHING TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
SB TWELVE TWENTY THREE. THANK
YOU TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF
THIS BILL PLEASE PRESS ONE
FOLLOWED BY ZERO AGAIN THAT'S
ONE THEN ZERO ON YOUR TELEPHONE
KEYPAD. I DO HAVE THREE LINES IN
Q. WE'LL GO FIRST TO LINE. ONE
SIXTY THREE.
FIND SIXTY THREE DID YOU WANT TO
EXPRESS YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS
BILL. WITH YOUR PERMISSION
MISTER TERRIBLE MOVE ON. CREDIT. NINE SEVENTY NINE. WHAT WOULD
CALDWELL HOUSTON FOR THE
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT THANK YOU. NEXT WE HAVE LINE EIGHTY ONE.
MICHAEL JURADO OUT OF RIVERSIDE
COUNTY- REPRESENTING THE SIXTH
WHICH IS A TWO WAY SPEAKER BASS
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL THANK.
THEY HAVE BLIND EIGHTY. GOOD
MORNING BROUGHT FROM DISABILITY
RIGHTS CALIFORNIA IN VERY STRONG
SUPPORT OF THIS IMPORTANT BILL
THANK YOU. NEXT WE ARE GOING
TWENTY. BILLIONS TO GOD ON
BEHALF OF THE COUNTY BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION IN
SUPPORT. KLEIN. SEVENTY ONE.
FORMER LINE. TWENTY EIGHT. HELLO
KIMBERLY FOSTER IT- WOULD
CALIFORNIA'S BEATTY AND- IN
SUPPORT. BUT THEN THEY'RE NOT
ALIGNED IN Q. OKAY THANK YOU.
NOW WE'RE MOVING TO OPPOSITION
THERE'S NO LEAD OPPOSITION
LISTED ON THIS BILL IS THERE
ANYONE HERE AND TWENTY TWO
HUNDRED THAT WISH TO TESTIFY IN
OPPOSITION SB TWELVE TWENTY
THREE. HERE IN CHINO AND- LET'S
GO TO OUR PHONE LINES MODERATOR
OF WITNESSES WERE WISHING TO
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION TO TWELVE
TWENTY THREE. THANK YOU TO SHARE
YOUR OPPOSITION FOR THIS BILL
PLEASE PRESS ONE FOLLOWED BY
ZERO ON YOUR TELEPHONE KEYPAD.
ONCE AGAIN THAT'S ONE AND THEN
ZERO AT THIS TIME PLEASE. THANK
YOU THERE ARE NO LINES IN QUEUE
AT THIS TIME. OKAY WILL BRING
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE THERE'S
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AS IT
RELATES TO THIS MANAGER. FROM
CENTER. FOR TROUBLED. HELLO
SENATOR BAKER- FIRST OF ALL
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING
THIS MEASURE FORWARD I AM- I
MYSELF I'M WORKING ON SEVERAL
BILLS THAT WOULD ADDRESS- THE
ISSUE OF BEHAVIOR HEALTH AND
MENTAL HEALTH IN HAVING ACTUAL
COURTS I'M EXPANDING THAT THAT
COMPONENT ON THERE AND I LOOK
FORWARD TO PRESENTING IT TO MY
COLLEAGUES HERE SO I BELIEVE
THAT IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
ON THERE BUT I DO HAVE A COUPLE
OF CONCERNS WITH THIS PARTICULAR
BILL IN THAT IT SEEMS A BIT.
BROAD AND- SPECIALLY WITH REGARD
TO THE DIAGNOSIS- WE SHOULDN'T
MUST BE RESET BUT- SO. WITH
THAT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE ONE WOULD
YOU MIND GIVING ME A DEFINITION
FOR WHAT YOU UNDERSTAND TO BE.
WHAT WOULD BE UNDERSTOOD UNDER
SUBSECTION WE CONTRIBUTE. TO THE
CRIME SURE I DON'T HAVE THAT
EXACT DEFINITION SEE FOR MY
WITNESSES DO YOU I WOULD SAY
THAT- I'M CERTAINLY SEEM TO OF
THIS BILL- TO THE TO YOU KNOW
REALLY QUICK THAT PRESENT RIGHT
TO BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO
INCREASE. THE USE OF MENTAL
HEALTH DIVERSION OF COURSE IT
DOES MINTAIN JUDICIAL
DISCRETION- IT THE TO EIGHT
MAINTAINS A RULE FOR THE
PROSECUTOR IN ARGUING AGAINST
THIS- BUT IT'S REALLY THE INTENT
IS TO CREATE THAT. PRESUMPTION
SO- BUT WITH THAT IF YOU WOULD
LIKE A SPECIFIC DEFINITION I
COULD ASK FOR MY WITNESSES THEY
HAVE A- SPECIFIC DEFINITION
THROUGH THE CHAIR WOULD THAT BE
POSSIBLE. FOR THE YEAR I'M- I'M
I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK THAT. MEMBERS
ROBERT THANK YOU THE STATUE
DEFINES THAT STANLEY CONTRIBUTED
AS CONTRIBUTING TO COSTING OR
MOTIVATING THE BEHAVIOR IN
QUESTION- AND SO TYPICALLY WHAT
HAPPENS IS A PSYCHIATRIST OR
PSYCHOLOGIST OR- LICENSED
CLINICIAN WILL EVALUATE THE
CANDID FOR DIVERSION- WILL
CONDUCT A MENTAL HEALTH
EXAMINATION AND THE RESULTS OF
THAT- IN WHICH OF COURSE
ENCOMPASSES SPEAKING TO FAMILY
MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND
REVIEWING POLICE REPORTS- THAT
ARE THEN CONVEYED TO THE COURT
MAKES A DECISION. OKAY THE
REASON I ASK IS- SO. NOT
SPEAKING WITH REGARDS TO PEOPLE
WHO ACTUALLY HAVE THE B. HERO
MENTAL HEALTH- CONDITION BECAUSE
I A SYMPATHIZER THINK WHAT'S ONE
OF THE REASONS BUT ONE OF MY
MOTIVATING REASONS FOR THE BILLS
THAT I'M CURRENTLY CARRYING- TO
DRESS THESE THESE THESE CASES
BUT I AM A BIT CAN ACT IN
CERTAIN I'M TRYING TO FIGURE
WHERE DO YOU FIND THAT THAT
BALANCE BETWEEN A DIAGNOSIS THAT
WAS. PREVIOUSLY- GIVEN YEARS
PRIOR INTO ONE THAT IS RECENTLY
GIVEN- AND I'M NOT SPEAKING
ABOUT THE OBVIOUS CASES WITH THE
HERO MENTAL HEALTH SUCH AS
SCHIZOPHRENIA- OR OTHER OTHER
MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS BUT I'M
I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW DO WE
NARAL THIS BILL SO THAT IT
PROTECTS. THE INTENT OF THE BILL
THE PROTECTING THESE- THESE AB.
ATTENTIONAL PATIENTS FROM
NEFARIOUS ACTORS USING THIS AS A
MEANS TO- BASICALLY NOT. BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR ACTIONS SO
I DO YOU HAVE ANY
RECOMMENDATIONS OR ANYWAYS- THAT
YOU MAKE YOU THINK. COULD BE
HELPFUL IN THERE IN THIS AND
MAKING SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT
ARE ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN
PREVIOUSLY DIAGNOSED WITH
SOMETHING THAT IS ONGOING. OR A
RECENT DIAGNOSIS IS COMPLETELY
ACCURATE NOT NOT USED BY THE
NEFARIOUS ACTORS CAN. REALLY
HELP THE SYSTEM B- USE IN IN IN
A WAY THAT HAS INTEGRITY SURE
THAT BE HAPPY SIT DOWN WITH THE
DOCTORS AND SEE FOR YOU KNOW
FEEL COMFORTABLE FINDING THAT
RIGHT BALANCE IS CERTAINLY THE
INTENT OF THIS BILL AND WHAT
I'VE NOTICED IN MY SHORT TIME IN
LEGISLATURES YOU KNOW THE
LEGISLATURE PASSES SOMETHING WE
SEE THE EFFECT AND THEN SOON AS
WE CORRECT AND IN THIS CASE.
ACTUALLY WE'RE COMING TO
PRACTICE IT WASN'T USED ENOUGH
AND SO- SO I THINK WE'RE SAYING
HEY THAT SOUNDS WASN'T STRUCK
THE OTHER WAY RIGHT SO THAT'S
WITH THE INTENT OF THIS BILL IS
TO MAKE THIS YOU KNOW SHIFT THE
BALANCE OF THIS IS USED MORE IF
WE COME BACK AND SAY HEY YOU
KNOW MAYBE A COUPLE YEARS HEY
IT'S TOO MUCH TOO LENIENT WE MAY
HAVE TO COME YOU KNOW READJUST
BUT I THINK. THIS CERTAINLY
TRIED TO SHIFT THE BALANCE TO
USE DIVERSION MORE BECAUSE THE
BELIEF IS AN OF THAT THE UC THE
COMMISSION- THAT REVIEW THIS
THAT IS NOT USED ENOUGH SO I
THINK YOU KNOW WE'RE MOVING IN
THE RIGHT DIRECTION WITH THIS
BILL BUT YOU WEWILL HAVE THE
CHANCE TO CORREC IN THE FUTURE
BUT MUST BE DISCUSSED WITH YOU
TO MAKE SURE YOU FEEL
COMFORTABLE WHERE WE'RE AT THAT
BOUNCE I DO IN AND THAT'S WHERE
I'M I'M GOING FOR BECAUSE I DO
BELIEVE THAT WE- YOU KNOW ASKED
SITTING IN THIS. PAST YEAR I'M
VERY VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE
FACT THAT WE. DO A LOT OF PEOPLE
WHO ARE HOW AT THE HEARING AND
MENTAL ISSUES THROUGH THE
CRIMINALS FOR I THINK WE DO NEED
FOR THIS AND I AM FOR THE FOR
THAT YOU'RE MOVING TOWARDS BUT I
WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE.
PERHAPS MORE OF JUST WHY ON ONE
A WE COULD- SEE HOW COULD MAKE
SURE THE WE HAVE THE SAFE CAR IN
YEAH I AND THERE ARE THE
ADDRESS- OTHER THAN THAT AB. I
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING. A MOVING
FORWARD WITH THIS BUILDING YOU
GOOD THANKS REYES. GREAT ANY
FURTHER OF A BY COMMITTEE
MEMBERS. DURING I DIDN'T HEAR
ANY PRESENTE ARE BACK WITH YOU
WERE ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE
RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE YOU ACCEPT
THOSE- YES I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE
HAVE- SO WE HAVE LIKE FOUR TO
SEVEN COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATIONS
OKAY LOOK FOR TERRY ACCEPTING WE
ARE ACCEPTING- ARE AT EXCEPT
EXCEPT IT. ALL RIGHT WOULD YOU
LIKE TO CLOSE RESPECTFULLY ASK
FOR A VOTE. AMORITE WE'RE
SEEKING A MOTION ON THIS MEASURE. IT'S BEEN MOVED BY SENATOR
SCANNER WE HAVE A DO PASSED AS
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS
COUNCIL PLEASE CALL THE ROLL
INDUSTRY TWELVE TWENTY THREE. SB
TWELVE TWENTY THREE BRADFORD
BRADFORD AYE A TROUBLED. TROUBLE
DOWNVOTING CAMARGO HI COME UNDER
AYE SKINNER SKINNER I. THAT
MEASURE HAS FOUR THREE VOTES
WILL LEAVE THE ROLE OPEN FOR
ABSENT MEMBERS NOW WE'RE TO OUR
LAST ITEM S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY
NINE BY SENATOR CAMARGO.
FORWARD YEAH. GOOD MORNING
MISTER CHAIR AND MEMBERS I AM
HERE TODAY TO PRESENT S. B.
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE WHICH SEEKS
TO IMPLEMENT A FORMAT OF GUIDED
STEPS AND TOOLS TO AFFORD
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND THEIR
FAMILIES I HUMANE HEALTHCARE
PROCESS. CURRENTLY CDCR ALLOWS A
DESIGNATED PERSON TO SIGN A
MEDICAL RELEASE FORM TO RECEIVE
INCARCERATED PERSONS MEDICAL
INFORMATION. UNFORTUNATELY MANY
FAMILIES REPORT NOT BEING MADE
AWARE OF THIS PROCESS UNTIL
AFTER IT IS WAY TOO LATE LEAVING
PEOPLE BLIND TO THEIR LOVED ONE
LOVED ONES HEALTHCARE STATUS. AS
A RESULT INCARCERATED PEOPLE MAY
SUFFER FROM ILLNESS AND MAY
PASSED AWAY ALONE WITH FAMILY
NUMBER MEMBERS NOT BEING
NOTIFIED FOR DAYS. HUNDREDS OF
INCARCERATED PEOPLE HAVE DIED
THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC MANY
DIED ALONE NO FAMILY MEMBERS
WERE PRESENT. WERE NOTIFIED TO
BE A COMFORT TO THEM IN THEIR
TIME OF NEED OR LAST HOURS.
UNFORTUNATELY FOR CARS RATED
PEOPLE THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT
DURING MEDICAL EMERGENCIES IS
NOT LIMITED TO THE PANDEMIC.
INCARCERATED PEOPLE IN THEIR
LOVED ONES HAVE SUFFERED THIS
WAY FOR YEARS. INCARCERATED MEN
AND WOMEN WHO INTO OUR MEDICAL
EMERGENCIES AND EVEN SLOW DEATH.
SUFFER OR PASS AWAY ALONE MORE
OFTEN THAN NOT IT IS BOTH TRAGIC
AND AVOIDABLE. SO AMONG OTHER
THINGS S. B. ELEVEN THIRTY NINE
MANDATES THAT CDC ARE REMOVED
FEES. FOR INCARCERATED PEOPLE
REQUESTING MEDICAL RECORDS
NOTIFY THOSE LISTED ON CERTAIN
MEDICAL RELEASE FORMS OF THEIR
INCARCERATED CONTACT WITHIN
TWENTY FOUR HOURS OF THE PERSON
EXPERIENCING A MEDICAL
EMERGENCY. EXPEDITE THE CURRENT
MEDICAL GRIEVANCE PROCESS FOR AN
INCARCERATED PERSON REMOVE THE
VISITOR CLEARANCE PROCESS FOR UP
TO FOUR VISITORS WITH AN
INCARCERATED PERSON IS IN
IMMINENT DANGER OF PASSING AWAY
. AND DESIGNATE A PHONE LINE FOR
PEOPLE ON THE OUTSIDE TO CALL
INTO AN INSTITUTION TO GIVE
NOTICE OF MEDICAL EMERGENCIES
RELATED TO A FAMILY MEMBER. OF
THE INCARCERATED PERSON. SB%
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE WILL AFFORD
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND THEIR
FAMILIES AMORE HUMANE HEALTH
CARE PROCESS INFUSED WITH THE
DIGNITY THAT WE ALL DESERVE.
WITH ME HERE IN SUPPORT IS
LORENA GARZA FROM. PRISON FROM
THE INSIDE OUT AND SANDRA SWARAS
FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
OF JESSE'S PLACE IN AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME I WOULD
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. ARE WE WILL START WITH
YOUR IN PERSON WITNESS AS FAR AS
A YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO MAKE A
PRESENTATION. GREETINGS MY NAME
IS ACTUALLY SANDERS WHAT IF I AM
THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND
FOUNDER OF JESSE'S PLACE A FIVE
OH ONE SEE THREE SOCIAL JUSTICE
ORGANIZATION THAT SUPPORTS
INCARCERATED AND HOMELESS
COMMUNITY. MOST IMPORTANTLY I AM
SYSTEM IMPACTED BEYOND MY
HUSBAND WHO IS CURRENTLY
INCARCERATED AND I AM A HEALTH
CARE WORKER SB ELEVEN THIRTY
NINE EASY BILL THEIR FAMILIES IN
CALIFORNIA WHO ARE IMPACTED BY
INCARCERATION. HAVE BEEN PRAYING
FOR IN THE LAST FEW YEARS DEATH
AND ILLNESS HAVE BECOME A REAL
FOR THE WORLD BUT ESPECIALLY
INCARCERATED PEOPLE WHO HAVE
BEEN KNOWN TO RECENTLY LET LESS
THAN ADEQUATE HEALTH CARE
TREATMENT. TODAY I AM ASKING YOU
TO GIVE THE INCARCERATED
POPULATION AND THEIR FAMILIES A
MORE HUMANE HEALTH CARE PROCESS
OF THIS BILL WOULD DO MANY
THINGS BUT TO NAME A FEW. THIS
BILL WOULD REMOVE FEES
ASSOCIATED WITH INCARCERATED
PEOPLE REQUESTING THEIR MEDICAL
RECORDS IT WOULD REQUIRE CDC ARE
TO NOTIFY A DESIGNATED PERSON
WITHIN TWENTY FOUR HOURS TO MAKE
CARS ST IT. PERSON BE SAVING A
MEDICAL EMERGENCY REQUIRE CDC
ARE TO INFORM THE POPULATION AN
UPDATE MEDICAL RELEASE FORMS AND
OTHER DOCUMENTS AT ANNUAL REVIEW
ENHANCE THE CURRENT PREVIOUS
PROCESSES FOR MEDICAL
EMERGENCIES ALLOW FOR PEOPLE TO
SPEND THE FINAL DAYS OF THEIR-
INCARCERATED LOVED ONES WITH AN
EXPEDITED CLEARANCE PROCESS IF
NEEDED. SB ELEVEN THIRTY NINE IS
ONLY ASKING FOR STATE TO TREAT
PEOPLE AS PEOPLE WHEN A PERSON
COMMITS A CRIME THEY ARE
SENTENCED TO A PRISON TERM
CURRENTLY WITHOUT SB ELEVEN
THIRTY NINE AM PLACE
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AND THEIR
LOVED ONES ARE ALSO BE PUNISHED.
EACH TIME TO INCARCERATED PERSON
FALL ILL THE OPPOSITION NATION
MENTIONED A POTENTIAL SECURITY
THREATS ALL INCARCERATED PEOPLE
AND OUTSIDE SETTINGS ARE
SHACKLED AND HANDCUFFED TO A
HOSPITAL BED THERE IS AN OFFICER
IN PLACE TO MONITOR THE PERSON.
ALREADY INCAPACITATED WE ALSO
MUST KEEP IN MIND THAT VISITORS
MUST GO THREE CLEARANCE PROCESS
AGAIN I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT
IF THE PERSON. WAS AFFORDED
VISITS PRIOR TO BECOMING. THAT
MEANS WE HAD COULD BE. ARE WE
ASISTIR WILLIAM PUNISH PEOPLE BY
REMOVING THEIR FOUND TIME IN
RENEWABLE. FOR SIMPLY BECAUSE
THEY FELT THEY'LL FINALLY IN
CALIFORNIA PRISONS THERE ARE
CURRENTLY. IN MINIMUM CUSTODY
TWENTY ONE THOUSAND OFFENDERS
AND LOW FIFTY FIVE THOUSAND AND
MEDIUM THERE IS FIFTY ONE
THOUSAND. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE
THAT ARE CONSIDERED THE MOST
WELL BEHAVED INCARCERATED PEOPLE
JUST LIKE IN PRISON SETTING IF
THE BEHAVIOR IS A CONCERN. IN
PERSON VISITS ARE REMOVED OR
REPLACED WITH BEHIND THE GLASS
VIDEO VISITS ARE AN OPTION FOR
THOSE SITUATIONS KOBE NINETEEN
IMPLEMENTED VIDEO VISITS AT EACH
INSTITUTION. SO THE RESOURCES
ARE AVAILABLE IN CONCLUSION MY
OWN HUSBAND HAD SURGERY I WAS
NOT NOTIFIED UNTIL HE CAME BACK
TO THE PRESENT. I WAS ABLE TO
CALL ME HE HAS A MEDIUM CUSTODY
SERVED FOURTEEN YEARS AT A COST
OF ONE MILLION THREE HUNDRED
THOUSAND. AND LAST TIME WE'LL
SEE I DROVE SEVEN HOURS FOUR
HUNDRED AND FOURTEEN MY- FROM
SERVING. TO GET HERE AND I WANT
TO JUST SAY THAT. I REALLY URGE
YOUR AYE VOTES AND THESE ARE
HUMAN ISSUES THAT MAY BE
REMEDIED BY YOU VOTING I. THANK
YOU FOR THIS TIME THANK YOU.
WELL GO TO THE PHONE LINE FOR
LORENA. GARCIA NO NO SHE'S HERE
. THE BOSTON FOR BOTH IN FOR
REASON I'M SORRY. HELLO MY NAME
IS LORRAINE GARZA I AM A SISTER
IN WOMEN AND A MEMBER OF PRISON
FROM THE INSIDE OUT HE- ON
AUGUST FIRST TWENTY TWENTY WHEN
I ARRIVED AT CALIFORNIA MEDICAL
FACILITY. TO SEE MR RUDY RUDY
GARZA. MY LATE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO
THE STATE AS C. THREE SIX SEVEN
ONE THREE AND INCARCERATED MEN
WITH LIVER CANCER- ADULT A
RESULT FROM YEARS OF UNTREATED
HEPATITIS C. IN THE LAST WEEKS
OF HIS LIFE HE RECEIVED MINIMAL
HEALTH CARE. AND I WAS GIVEN
MINIMAL INFORMATION. HE RECEIVED
HIS CARE FROM THE OTHER
INCARCERATED MEN THE SAME MAN
WOULD UPDATE ME ON HIS DAILY
HEALTH STATUS. WHEN ATTEMPTED
MANY CALLS AND MESSAGES WENT
UNANSWERED EVEN BY THE
EMBARRASSMENT. VISITING CENTER
CORRECTIONAL OFFICER ANSWERED
THE PHONE WENT. AND I SAID OH
AND SAID STOP CALLING AND
LEAVING SO MANY MESSAGES THEN
PROCEEDED TO HANG UP ON ME.
ALTHOUGH I AM HIS WIFE DOESN'T
RESPONDED ON HIS MEDICAL RELEASE
AND THE NEXT OF KIN NONE OF
PRISON. NONE OF THE PRISON
ADMINISTRATION CALLED ME TO
NOTIFY ME ABOUT HIS HEALTH
ISSUES. FOR WEEKS I TRIED TO
CALL CDC R. AND THE CALIFORNIA
HEALTH CARE FACILITY IN STOCKTON
AND WAS GIVEN THE RUN AROUND.
THE PRISON SAID TO CONTACT THE
HOSPITAL. THE HOSPITAL SAID TO
CONTACT THE PERSON NO ONE WAS
ABLE TO GIVE ME ANY INFORMATION
. NEWS REPORTER MADE A CALL TO
THE PRESENT ON MY BENEFIT I
QUICKLY RECEIVED A CALL BACK.
WHEN I ASKED TORRENT UPDATE.
SORRY WHEN ASKED FOR AN UPDATE
ON MY HUSBAND'S HEALTH I WAS
TOLD YOUR HAS BEEN IS AMONG THE
LIVING. AND THE CALL WAS
DISCONNECTED. WHEN RUDY RETURNED
TO HIS FACILITY FROM A HOSPITAL
STAY HE CALLED AND TOLD ME THAT
HE ONLY HAD THREE MONTHS TO
LIVE. THAT WAS ACTUALLY OUR LAST
CONVERSATION. WITH DOCTOR
ADVISED ME THAT THEY ARE ONLY
ABLE TO MAKE HIM COMFORTABLE AND
TILL HE PASSED. DAYS LATER RUDY
WAS TRANSFERRED TO C. M. F.
HOSPICE IN BACK OF BILL. I
CALLED FOR VISITING INFORMATION
I WAS TOLD THAT IF RUDY WAS IN
PERIL I WOULD BE CONTACTED AND
ALLOWED AN EMERGENCY VISIT. THAT
NEVER HAPPENED. I ARRIVED THE
NEXT DAY FOR A SCHEDULED VISIT
CHECK DAN AND WAS ESCORTED TO
THE HOSPITAL YEAH. THERE I WAS
TOLD MRS GARZA RUDY EXPIRED AT
SEVEN TEN THIS MORNING. THE
EXACT TIME I ARRIVED THERE. AND
THE COMPONENTS OF S. B. ELEVEN
THIRTY NINE PENDING ENACTED AS
LAW I WOULD HAVE RECEIVED
UPDATES ABOUT MY HUSBAND'S
HEALTH I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
CALL AND INQUIRE ABOUT HIS WELL
BEING AND STAY WITH HIM AND HIS
LAST DAYS OF LIFE. AND S. B.
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE BEEN ENACTED
MY HUSBAND WOULD HAVE HAD A MORE
HUMANE PASSING I URGE AYE VOTE
FOR CALIFORNIANS TO HAVE HUMANE
HEALTHCARE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AS CARS ARE
NOW WE'LL SEE IF THERE'S ANY
ADDITIONAL WITNESSES HERE AND
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED THAT WILL
LIKE TO TESTIFY WITH APPS JUST
WALK UP TO THE MICROPHONE
SPEAKER NAME IN YOUR
ORGANIZATION. MY NAME IS MARVIN
MUCH I'M DIRECTOR OF ADVOCACY AT
THE PRISON REENTRY NETWORK- ALSO
AND WITH AND NOT HAVE A PRICE
COLLEGE. IT DELIVERS COLLEGE
CLASSES TOO MANY SAN QUENTIN.
BUT TODAY I'M HERE IN MY
CAPACITY AS- THE INTERNATIONAL
DOMESTIC POLICY PERSON FORTY
HUMANE PRISON HOSPICE PROJECT.
AS YOU KNOW CALIFORNIA WE HAVE
ROUGHLY A HUNDRED AND TWENTY
HUNDRED TWENTY TWO THOUSAND
PRISONERS- AFTER. THE
RECEIVERSHIP AT AND WE HAVE
SEVENTEEN BEDS IN CALIFORNIA.
PRISONS FOR HOSPICE. AND SO WE
JUST NEED YOU STATE YOUR NAME
AND ORGANIZATION IN YOUR
POSITION PLEASE I THINK I DID
OKAY MARVIN MUCH THANK YOU. AND
NO BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT
WE'RE THAT'S WHERE WE ARE RIGHT
NOW JUST THE ME TOOS RIGHT NOW
IN THE TESTIMONY. OKAY I. SAID
YOU WANT ME TO SAY WHY AM IN
SUPPORT OF THIS NO WE JUST NEED
YOU SAY YOU'RE IN SUPPORT SO WE
CAN GET EVERYBODY THROUGH THE-
PRIMARY TIME WAS FOR THE PRIMARY
TO LEE WITNESSES NOT REBUT
SHOULD TO ME TO. AN INTEREST OF
TIME I'M SORRY OKAY I HAVEN'T
BEEN IN THIS PROCESS I
UNDERSTAND I WAS INCARCERATED
FOR FORTY ONE YEARS AND I'VE THE
SINCE PROBABLY GOTTEN ABOUT TWO
THOUSAND SIXTEEN SO. THIS IS MY
FIRST TIME STAND BEFORE
COMMITTEE LIKE THIS. AND I CAME
HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS BECAUSE I
LEFT PEOPLE THERE THAT I LOVE.
ARE OUT OF THEM AND SO. I
USUALLY. WANT TO SAY THAT I
SUPPORT THIS BILL IS NECESSARY.
IS A HUMAN RIGHT. THANK YOU
PROJECT. GREETINGS MY NAME IS
ALEXIS BOND THAT AND I AM IN
STRONG SUPPORT FOR S. B. ELEVEN
THIRTY NINE ON BEHALF OF JESSE
SPACE ORGANIZATION THANK YOU.
THE QUICKNESS. HI MY NAME IS
PORSCHE TAYLOR I AM THE FOUNDER
AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR PRISON
FROM THE INSIDE OUT TEAM. AND
THE SPONSOR OF SB ELEVEN THIRTY
NINE AND I'M STRONG SUPPORT
THANK YOU. THE LITTLE ON BEHALF
OF CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND
DRESSED JUSTICE AND STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. HELLO MY ROOM
MY REELS GARCIA THE DISEASE
PLEASE ORGANIZATION IN STRONG
SUPPORT THANK YOU. I SEE THERE'S
NO OTHER WITNESSES HERE IN
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED INTO PORT
MODERATE LET'S GO TO OUR PHONE
LINES AROUND TWO THIRDS
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT OF SB
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE. IT IS BIG IN
SUPPORT OF SB ELEVEN THIRTY NINE
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. WE'LL GO FIRST TO
LINE. SEVENTY NINE. A REAL LIFE
W. NINE YOUR LINE IS OPEN.
BOULEVARD TO LIVE EIGHTY FOUR.
GOOD MORNING THIS IS JIM
LINDBERG BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION OF
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. IF YOU.
BY. FIFTY FOUR. WHY DO PEOPLE
YOUR LINE IS OPEN. NEXT WITNESS
. ONE MOMENT PLEASE IT. WILL
MOVE ON TO LINE. SIXTY THREE.
YES HI GOOD MORNING CAN YOU HEAR
ME WE CAN HEAR YOU. GREAT THANK
YOU GOOD MORNING MY NAME IS
MARILYN MANSON- SYSTEM IMPACTED
INDIVIDUAL AND I WOULD LIKE
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR I.
BOATS. THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR.
NINE EIGHTY ONE. HELLO CAN YOU
HEAR ME WE CAN AREA. YES MICHAEL
JURADO ADAMS RIVERSIDE COUNTY I
STRONGLY SUPPORT S. B. ELEVEN
THIRTY NINE THANK YOU THANK YOU
. BY. TWENTY NINE. BARATHEON
BEHALF OF INITIATE ACTIVE IN
STRONG SUPPORT THANK YOU. BY
EIGHTY TWO. EVERY GAME SB
CHAPTER ZERO FOUR THANK YOU. BY. EIGHTY THREE. HI THIS IS A
LITTLE MORE ANALYSTS FIFTY AND
I'M CALLING IN STRONG SUPPORT.
THANK YOU. BUT LIGHT EIGHTY
FIVE. HI MY NAME IS OLIVIA
CAMPBELL- I'M A PRIVATE THAT IS
UNCOMMON FOR SACRAMENTO IN
STRONG SUPPORT OF SB ELEVEN
THIRTY NINE THANK YOU THANK YOU
. LINE TWENTY ONE. GOOD MORNING
CAROLINE BIRD HUNTERS MY NAME IS
JOHN I'M NOT A LACK OF A
INCARCERATED UMBILICAL THE
FATHER THANK YOU GROUND ON
BEHALF OF JEFFREY FISCHER GONNA
BE. AT ELEVEN THIRTY NINE AND WE
WORK WITH. ASK FOR YOUR BOATS
EACH YEAR. TO BY EIGHT SIX. I
YEAH I'M FOUNDER OF THE HILL
PLAN ALONG MY HIGH DEREK HERO
FORMALLY IN CARPET WE SUPPORT
ACT ELEVEN BERGEN. MY. SEVENTY
ONE. NINE SEVENTY ONE YOUR LINE
IS OPEN PLEASE GO AHEAD. HELLO
GO AHEAD WE CAN HEAR YOU. OF-
BUDGET UNFORTUNATELY- DUE TO A
SYSTEM DELAYED LINE SEVENTY ONE
DID DROP IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO RE
QUEUE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. MEANWHILE A
BORDERLINE EIGHTY SEVEN GO AHEAD
PLEASE. WHAT WHAT CALDWELL
HOUSTON FOR THE CALIFORNIA
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION IN
CONCORD THANK YOU THANK YOU. BY. TWENTY SIX. GOOD MORNING
DURING FROM THE HEALTH CHAPTER
OF THE ASSOCIATION OF SOCIAL
WORKERS ARE IN SUPPORT. NINE
FIFTY FOUR. HI MY NAME IS IVANA
GOES UP I AM CALLING IN REGARDS-
WITH LFE CREDITED REPRESENTS THE
CHILDREN ON THE BUS NANAKULI FOR
FAMILY IN FULL SUPPORT OF SB
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE. THANK YOU.
NINE EIGHTY EIGHT. ANGELA ARE
WOMEN AT THE BANCORPORATION'S
FULLER IN FULL FORCE. THREE
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE. BY NINETY.
HELLO GOOD MORNING EVERYONE MY
NAME IS MARIA COULD COS I AM THE
FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE LEADER FOR
CRIED IN TRUTH AND I AM CALLING
IN STRONG SUPPORT FOR AN AYE
VOTE ON SB ELEVEN THIRTY NINE
APPLE SPONSOR OF THE BILL. THANK
YOU. SURE THERE ARE NO FURTHER
LINES IN Q. THANK YOU. I WILL GO
TO OPPOSITION THERE'S NO LEAD
WITNESS IN OPPOSITION SO I WILL
ASK IS THERE ANYONE HERE IN
TWENTY TWO HUNDRED THAT WISHES
TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION. OF SB
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE. SEEN HERE
ANYONE MODERATE WILL GO DOWN
HERE I. YES BUT NOT EASILY WITH
THE C. P. O. A- ON THE MAIN LINE
FOR THE- OPPOSITION- OKAY WE HAD
NO ONE LISTED ALL RIGHT. RIGHT
AHEAD YOU HAVE FOUR MINUTES.
THANK YOU MR CHAIRMAN MANY
MEMBERS MY NAME IS MATT EASILY
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA
CORRECTIONAL PEACE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION HERE TO SPEAK
REGRETTABLY IN OPPOSITION TO SB
THIRTY ELEVEN THIRTY NINE. IF
YOU'RE A RECOGNIZE THE
IMPORTANCE OF VISITATIONS OF THE
LIFE AND REHABILITATION OF
INMATES INCARCERATED WITHIN CDCR
AND HAVE NO INHERENT HUMAN
NOTIFYING FAMILY AND LOVED ONES
WHEN INMATES ARE SUFFERING FROM
SERIOUS MEDICAL ISSUES WE CAN
ASIDE THE MOTIVATIONS FOR AT
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE BUT
UNFORTUNATELY THIS BILL POSES
MANY SECURITY THREATS FOR OUR
OFFICERS. THAT CAN ALSO
POTENTIALLY PLACE INMATES AND
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AT RISK AS
WELL. SB ELEVEN THIRTY NINE TO
NEW TO. APPLIED NEW NOTIFICATION
OF PHONE CALL ACT THIS
REQUIREMENTS ON VCR WHEN INMATE
IS HOSPITALIZED ANY SERIOUS
MEDICAL REASON. WHILE IT MAY
SOUND REASONABLE ON ITS FACE AT
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE TO FIND YOUR
YOUTH MEDICAL REASONS IN AN
OVERLY BROAD AND ALL
ENCOMPASSING MANNER. THAT WILL
DIRECTLY RESULT IN FIGURES TO
CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS. THE FIRST
OF THE CRITERIA DEFINING.
MEDICAL REASON IS WHEN A MEDICAL
PROFESSIONAL HAS DETERMINED THAT
AN INCARCERATED PERSON NEEDS
MEDICAL TREATMENT AT A PUBLIC OR
COMMUNITY HOSPITAL. THIS
CRITERION WILL RESULT IN ALL
MANNER OF ROUTINE AND NON
SERIOUS MEDICAL EVENTS BEING
CONSIDERED SERIOUS. WITH LIMITED
CAPACITY AND CAPABILITY OF
PRISON MEDICAL FACILITIES
INMATES ARE OFTEN REFERRED OUT
PUBLIC OR COMMUNITY HOSPITALS.
DALY FOR SPECIALTY APPOINTMENTS
ROUTINE PROCEDURES AND EGULAR
TREATMENTS THE MAJORITY OF WHICH
ARE NOT SERIOUS OR EMERGENCIES.
IF AT ELEVEN THIRTY NINE WOULD
BECOME LAW EACH TIME AN INMATE
LEFT THEIR PRISON FOR A NON
EMERGENCY VISITS TO THE
HOSPITAL. THE DEPARTMENT WOULD
WITHIN TWENTY FOUR HOURS YOU
REQUIRED TO NOTIFY ALL PERSONS
COVERED BY THE CURRENT MEDICAL
RELEASE OF INFORMATION FORM. AND
FACILITATE PHONE CALLS. BETWEEN
INMATES AND THOSE PERSONS. WHEN
INMATE MUST RECEIVE ANY OR SO
THAT OUT THAT. MUCH FORGETFUL TO
CONTROL THE THIRTY- FOR THE
INMATE IN THAT IT. DURING A
TRANSPORT TO A LOCAL HOSPITAL
THERE TYPICALLY ONLY TWO
CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS WITH AN
INMATE AN UNSECURED AREA AND YOU
MEDIA. NON EMERGENCY
NOTIFICATION WILL INFORM ANYONE-IDENTIFIED ON THEIR MEDICAL
RELEASE OF INFORMATION. OF THEIR
WHEREABOUTS. NO CONTROL OVER THE
SPREAD OF INFORMATION AFTER THAT
NOTIFICATION HAS BEEN MADE
THERE'S LITTLE DOUBT THAT IN%
SOME INSTANCES DANGEROUS
INDIVIDUALS COULD BECOME AWARE
OF ONE UNIQUE MY MOST EASILY BE
REACHED. THIS PLACES
CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS AT RISK
AND AT THE END OF HIS POSITION
TO POTENTIALLY BE EASILY
OVERWHELMED IF THE WRONG PEOPLE
WERE INFORMED OF THE SITUATION.
IF YOU FEEL A AUTHORIZED EARNS
REGARDING EMERGENCY IN PERSON
CONTACT BUSINESS AND VIDEO
CALLED CONTAINS THE VISION D. OF
SECTION FIFTY FOUR OH ONE. GIVEN
THE EXTREMELY BROAD DEFINITION
OF SERIOUS MEDICAL REASONS IT'S
DIFFICULT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT
EXACTLY WOULD QUALIFY AS
CRITICAL OR MORE SERIOUS MEDICAL
CONDITION. FOR THE PURPOSES OF
THE IN PERSON CONTACT VISITS.
THEIR MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH
REQUIRE IN PERSON VISIT. IF AN%
INMATE IS THAT COMMUNITY
HOSPITAL FOR ANY BUT THE MOST
SERIOUS OF LIFE THREATENING
MEDICAL CONDITIONS. IN THAT
CURRENT PRACTICES TREAT NEARLY
EVERY MEDICAL THAT AS AN
EMERGENCY AT NO OUT OF AN OVER
ABUNDANCE OPTION. VERY NARROW
DEFINITION OF CRITICAL OR
SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION WOULD
NEED TO BE CRAFTED BEFORE EVEN
CONSIDERING ALLOWING THE IN
PERSON VISIT. WATER KNOW IF A
HOSPITAL. IN THE EVENT OF INMATE
IN IMMINENT DANGER OF DYING
INMATES WOULD HAVE AN ALLOWANCE
OF UP TO FOUR VISITORS AT ONE
TIME. EVEN WHEN AGAIN ME IS THAT
A PUBLIC OR COMMUNITY HEALTH
BILL. AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED
THE TYPICAL TWO CORRECTIONAL
OFFICERS WHO ACCOMPANIED IN ON
TRANSPORT. MIGHT BE INSUFFICIENT
TO PROPERLY INSURE THE SAFETY OF
THEMSELVES THE INMATES AND THE
PUBLIC IN AROUND THE HOSPITAL.
REGARDLESS OF THE REASONS THAT
INMATE IS TRANSPORTED TO THE
HOSPITAL THERE ARE NO PROVISIONS
IN THE BILL THAT ALLOWS THE YARD
TO LIMIT THE DISCUSSION
REGARDING THE LOCATION OR OTHER
CURRENT THAT CRITICAL
INFORMATION. MORE PHONE CALLS
THAN A PRISON CAN BE MONITORED
THERE'S NO SUCH GUARANTEE THAT
THE ABILITY F THAT ABILITY AT A
COMMUNITY HOSPITAL. THE GOAL
THAT THE ELEVEN THIRTY NINE ARE
DEFINITELY NO ONE CERTAINLY WELL
INTENTIONED BUT THE BILL CREATES
AN UNACCEPTABLE RISK TO
CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS INMATES
AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THE
PROVISIONS APPLY TO NORMAL
EVERYDAY EVENTS FAR MORE OFTEN
THAN SERIOUS SIGNIFICANT MEDICAL
EMERGENCIES THAT SEEM TO BE THE
FOCUS OF THE DISCUSSION. FOR
THESE REASONS EASY PEEL AWAY AS
OPPOSED TO ELEVEN THIRTY NINE.
BUT WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING
WITH YOU AUTHORS OFFICE AND HOPE
WE CAN ACHIEVE OUR GOALS AND
ALSO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF
CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS. THANK YOU
FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MAY.
MONTEREY WILL GO THE PHONE. INTO
AFTER ADDITIONAL WITNESSES IN
OPPOSITION TO. SB ELEVEN THIRTY
NINE. IT IS BECAUSE OUR POSITION
PLEASE PRESS ONE THEN ZERO AT
THIS TIME. WE'LL GO TO LINE
NINETY FIVE GO AHEAD. BY NINETY
FIVE YOUR LINE IS OPEN PLEASE GO
AHEAD.
WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE QUEUED UP AT
THIS POINT. THANK YOU WILL BRING
BACK TO THE COMMITTEE ARE THERE
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IN
REGARDS TO THIS MEASURES SENATOR
SKINNER. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
AS CENTER COMELEC OR YOU FOR
BRINGING THE MEASURE BEFORE US.
THIS IS BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE
OBVIOUSLY WITHIN OUR STATE
PRISON FACILITIES BUT I THINK.
THAT WITH THE ONSET OF THE
PANDEMIC- IT BECAME MORE TO OUR
ATTENTION BECAUSE- THERE WERE SO
MANY CARS THREE DID INDIVIDUALS
WHO. IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THE
PANDEMIC. ARE CONTRACTED. CODED
AND- WE HAD NO OF COURSE NO
VISITATION THAT WAS OCCURRING.
AND MANY YOU KNOW THE DEATH RATE
WAS HIGH. AND THE TRANSITION
FROM GETTING THE VIRUS AND DYING
WAS A PRETTY QUICK TIMELINE AND
SO MANY FAMILIES. COULD NOT FIND
OUT NUMBER ONE THEY DIDN'T EVEN
FIND OUT THAT. THERE THE PERSON
THAT. DURING COURSE RATED LOVED
ONE WAS HAD CONTRACTED COBIT
NORD THAT THEY WERE- YOU KNOW IT
EITHER IN HOSPITAL OR OR HAD
DIED THERE WAS A BIT GOOD BLACK
TIME. SO I THINK THAT IT CAME.
THE WHOLE THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF
THE THAT- FIRST. SAY YOU KNOW
NOT HUMANE PROCEDURE OR-
NOTIFYING PEOPLE THAT SOMEONE
DAY- THAT A PERSON THAT IS
EITHER IN THEIR FAMILY OR
OTHERWISE CLOSE TO THEM THAT IS
INCARCERATED HAS EITHER YOU KNOW
IS EITHER ILL OR HOSPITALIZED ME
THINK IT REALLY CAME TO THE FORE
DURING THE PANDEMIC- NOW. WHAT I
AM INTERESTED IN WHICH WE DID
NOT GET TALK ABOUT AS MUCH IS
THIS WHOLE ISSUE OF HOW WHAT IT
THERE IS FOR HOSPICE IN YOUR
BILL DOESN'T NECESSARILY TOUCH
THAT AND I THINK ONE OF OUR A
WITNESSES WHO YOU KNOW IS NEW TO
THIS PROCESS DIDN'T KNOW THAT
THEY WEREN'T REALLY GOING TO BE
ABLE TO EXPLAIN THAT TO US
THOUGH WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE
ANYTHING IN WRITING REGARDING
THAT. BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING
IS THAT WHILE YOUR BILL WOULD
WOULD IMPROVE NOTIFICATION AND
IMPROVE VISITATION IT DOESN'T
NECESSARILY ADDRESS EXPANSION OF
HOSPICE BEDS IS THAT MY CORRECT
YOU ARE CORRECT OKAY SO THAT MAY
BE ANOTHER THING THAT WE ALL
HAVE TO LOOK AT BUT I CERTAINLY
ENCOURAGE ANYONE WHO HAS
INFORMATION ABOUT THAT TO
COMMUNICATE TO OUR OFFICES TO
HELP US- INCREASE OUR KNOWLEDGE
THAT WE COULD LOOK AT THAT FOR A
FUTURE POINT I THINK WHAT YOUR
BILL IS DOING IS AT LEAST GIVING
THE OPPORTUNITY FOR. LOVED ONES
TO BE NOTIFIED. FOR ALSO THERE
TO BE CONTACTING COMMUNICATION.
AND I THINK THOSE THINGS ARE
VERY IMPORTANT AND I APPRECIATE-
JESSE'S- JUSTICE THAT THE
ORGANIZATION FOR BRINGING IT TO
YOU AND- I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE
THE BILL. THANK YOU WE HAVE A
MOTION BY SENATOR SKINNER
SENATOR OUR TROUBLE. YES THERE
CALM WATER- IT'S HARD TO HEAR
SOME OF THE STORIES THAT WE HAVE
THE PERSONAL STORIES OF- THE-
FAMILY MEMBERS WHO HAVE NOT BEEN
THERE I THINK THAT WAS THE
CONSEQUENCE OF COVERT NINETEEN
AS WELL BECAUSE MANY MANY FAMILY
MEMBERS WERE NOT ABLE TO BE
WITHIN. WITH THEIR FAMILY
MEMBERS **** ENDEMIC WENT
THROUGH SO IT'S BEEN A VERY
ROUGH TWO YEARS FOR MANY FAMILY
MEMBERS WHO HAVE LOST- LOVED
ONES AB- I'M FORTY BECAUSE OF
CODE OR OUTSIDE OF CODE BUT IT'S
BEEN A VERY AND I A- I A
SYMPATHIZING EMPATHIZE WITH.
YOUR WITH ALL OF THE FAMILY
RESENT WERE AFFECTED BY BY THIS-
BY THIS LAST TWO YEARS- THAT
HAPPENED- HAVING SAID THAT I AM
KIND OF CURIOUS- BUT LET ME JUST
FINISHING RIGHT WHAT IT FOR THE
FAMILIES I BELIEVE THAT
EVERYONE- SPECIALLY WHEN THEY
ARE INCARCERATED NEED AN
OPPORTUNITY TO. HAVE- NEVER
CHANGES YOU HAVE A FAIR WELL I
TO BASICALLY HAVE CLOSURE WITH
THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS BECAUSE YOU
NEVER KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN
WHICH THESE FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE
PARTED AND I THINK EVERYONE WHO
IS AT THAT POINT MOMENT IN TIME
IN LIFE ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE-
CONSCIOUS AND INCOHERENT- IT
ALLOWS FOR US TO HAVE. CLOSURE
AND I JUST I PERSONALLY BELIEVE
THAT THAT IS. IMPORTANT TO HAVE
. HAVING SAID THAT- I AM
CONCERNED WITH THE- WITH THE
CONCERNS ARE EXPRESSED TODAY BY
THE OPPOSITION AND I WAS KIND OF
CURIOUS TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT
YOU HAD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO
SIT WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS ALL
STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS SOME OF
THESE SECURITY AND SAFETY
CONCERNS- WITH. YOU KNOW. FIRST
OF ALL HAVING PEOPLE AT AT GO TO
COMMUNITY HOSPITALS AND MEDICAL
HOSPITALS AND NEARBY AND IT WHAT
THAT WOULD TAKE- AS FAR AS
MAKING SURE THAT. THE CORRECTION
OFFICERS HAVE THE SAFETY THAT
THEY NEED IN THE COMMUNITY
MEMBERS HAVE THE SAFETY THEY
THAT ALTHOUGH- PEOPLE WHO ARE IN
THEIR LAST MOMENTS ARE TIME IN
TIME OUT ARE NOT. IN MY OPINION
IF YOU'RE REALLY AT THAT AT THAT
END YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE A
RISK TO WELL I DON'T THINK I'M
NOT AN EXPERT BUT I HIGHLY DOUBT
THAT YOU WOULD BE AT RISK. BUT
OTHER. STAKEHOLDERS MAY BE AT
RISK OR MAY POSE A RISK SO I'M
JUST GONNA CURIOUS IF YOU HAD
ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT HAVE-
ACTUALLY- MMHM MMHM. MAYES YOU
KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING I DON'T.
THINK SENATOR. SO THE OPPOSITION
SUBMITTED A LETTER I THINK A
COUPLE OF DAYS LESS THAN TWENTY
FOUR HOURS BEFORE THE COMMITTEE
HEARING- AND THEY DID NOT
CONTACT THE OFFICE AND MOST OF
WHAT THE OPPOSITION SHARE OR
ABOUT INTERNAL PROCEDURES- FROM
CDC ARE. THIS IS SILENT ON HOW
MANY FOLKS YOU NEED TO TRANSPORT
AND IT MAY BE DIFFERENT FROM
PRISON TO PRISON BASED ON THE
LEVEL OF SECURITY THIS WILL NOT
CHANGE MOST OF WHAT THE
OPPOSITION SHARED IN THEIR
TESTIMONY IT DOES NOT SAY YOU
CAN YOU CAN STILL ONLY HAVE TWO
OFFICERS IN A ROOM IF YOU HAVE
FIVE FOLKS WHO ARE EXPIRING AND
IF IT IS SILENT ON ALL OF THOSE
THINGS AND I CERTAINLY BELIEVE
THAT CDCR. YOU KNOW I MEAN THEY
HAVE PROCEDURES AND POLICIES. ON
TRANSPORT THEY HAVE PROCEDURES
AND POLICIES ON VISITATION- AND
THIS DOES NOT REMOVE ANY OF THE
SECURITY PRECAUTIONS THAT ARE
EITHER USED TO TRANSPORT SOMEONE
WHO IS INCARCERATED OR THE
PROCESS OF HOW VISITATION
HAPPENS. OKAY SO I'M FOLLOWING
QUESTIONS M. WHEN WE SPEAK WITH
REGARDS TO CRITICAL AND SERIOUS
CONDITIONS DO YOU HAVE- I KNOW
IT'S NOT EXPRESSED IN THE IN THE
CURRENT BILL BUT DO YOU HAVE A
DEFINITION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE
TO INCLUDE IN AND HAVE MORE OF A
CLARIFICATION IS WHEN THAT WHAT
THAT. ENTAILS SO I CERTAINLY ARM
. RESPECT THE COMMENTS FROM THE
OPPOSITION ON YOU KNOW. MAKING
SURE THAT- A SERIOUS MEDICAL
CONDITION. IS JUST THAT RIGHT SO
I NEED A ROOT CANAL I MEAN I
DON'T EVEN WANT TO GIVE EXAMPLES
OF HEALTH CONDITIONS BECAUSE- AS
WE ALL PROBABLY KNOW AND HAVE
EXPERIENCE ONE THING CAN LEAD TO
ANOTHER CAN LEAD TO ANOTHER- AND
TO. MISS GARZA'S POINT HER
HUSBAND DIED FROM LIVER CANCER
THAT HE GOT WHILE INCARCERATED
BECAUSE HE WAS NOT TREATED FOR
HEPATITIS. SO I THINK THE OTHER
PART OF THIS IS THAT YOU KNOW
OUR PRISONS OUR PRISONS BUT THEY
ARE ALSO SCHOOLS NOW AND THEY
ARE ALSO HOSPITALS. AND IT IS
THE KIND OF TREATMENT THAT YOU
WOULD EXPECT IN HOSPICE OR IN A
NURSING CARE FACILITY OR IN A
HOSPITAL. THAT YOU SHOULD BE
ABLE TO GET IN PRISON A PERSON
IS STILL A PERSON. BUT EXISTING
LAWS SAYS YOU KNOW DEATH SERIOUS
INJURY OR SERIOUS ILLNESS. SO WE
CERTAINLY CAN WORK WITH LANGUAGE
TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT I
STUB MY TOE. AND SO I SHOULD BE
ALLOWED ALL OF THESE-
ADDITIONAL. CONDITIONS BUT YOU
KNOW WHAT MISSOURI'S DIDN'T
SHARE IS THAT HER HUSBAND'S
SHOULDER. SEPARATED RIPPED OUT
OF HIS BODY. WENT TO THE
HOSPITAL HAD TO HAVE SURGERY
PINS PUT IN SHE WAS NEVER
NOTIFIED THAT SERIOUS AND I DO
BELIEVE THAT A FAMILY MEMBER
SHOULD BE NOTIFIED WHEN A
SERIOUS ILLNESS. HAS BEEN
DIAGNOSED BECOMES PREVALENT OR
WHEN SOMEONE IS IN SERIOUS OR
CRITICAL CONDITION THE SAME
THING THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU TO
BE UPLIFTED INTO A HELICOPTER
AND TRANSPORTED TO YOU KNOW A
HOSP SO THAT YOU CAN GET CARE IS
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WE ARE
NOT TALKING ABOUT I HAVE TO GO
FOR MY YOU KNOW DENTAL CLEANING
I WANT TO HAVE FOUR PEOPLE COME
AND VISIT ME. AND SO I THINK IT
WOULD BE DISINGENUOUS FOR THE
OPPOSITION TO WANT TO INSERT
THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW HE THEY
DID SHARE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND
THE INTENT OF THE BILL AND THAT
IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MANAGE
IT IS FOLKS THAT ARE CRITICALLY
ILL THAT ARE SERIOUSLY ILL THAT
ARE ON THEIR DEATHBED. YOU KNOW
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE
VISITORS THEIR NEXT OF KIN THEIR
LOVED ONE SHOULD BE NOTIFIED-
THERE SHOULD BE A GRIEVANCE
PROCESS IN PLACE. AND PEOPLE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR
MEDICAL RECORDS. THAT'S WHAT THE
BILL THAT SO I AGREE WITH ALL OF
THAT BUT I HAVE TO SAY STILL
KIND OF CONCERNED ABOUT THE
ADMINISTRATIVE PART OF IT
BECAUSE IT ALSO REQUIRES. FOR
UPDATED OF CONTACT INFORMATION
ON IN A YEARLY BASIS I'M KINDA
CURIOUS WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S
BEEN ANY CONSIDERATION AND-
ALLOCATING AND- FUNDS FOR IT
ADMINISTRATIVE- RESPONSIBILITY
OF FOLLOWING THROUGH ALL OF THIS
SO IF NOT NOW. AND HAVE YOU
CONSIDERED MOVING FOR WITH
EIGHTY- BUDGET ALLOCATION TO
MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS ABLE TO
BE ADMINISTERED AND THE SAFETY
PROTOCOLS ARE IN PLACE AND-
BECAUSE ALL OF THAT IT IT WILL
BE. QUITE A HEFTY TOLL AND I AM
ALWAYS VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT
WHAT WE ASK OUR AGENCIES TO DO
SPECIALLY WHEN IT CREATES LOOK.
AT HIGHER LEVEL OF INVOLVEMENT
IN MAKING SURE THEY HAVE THE
RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO SO.
WELL DO KNOW THAT THERE IS HAVE
TO BUDGET. EVERY YEAR- CDC- AND
YOU KNOW I IN OTHER ARE IN
REGULAR CONVERSATION WITH THE
SECRETARY ABOUT WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN OUR PRISONS. AND
THE KINDS OF RESOURCES- YOU KNOW
THAT THEY NEED THAT SHOULD BE
AFFORDED NOT ONLY TO FOLKS WERE
INCARCERATED BUT ALSO- TO STAFF
AND ADMINISTRATE. AND SO MY
UNDERSTANDING IS THAT OF COURSE
IS GO TO APPROPRIATE- BECAUSE
THEY IS. A BUNCH CONSIDER. BUT
THE REALITY IS THAT- YOU KNOW
HEALTH CARE COSTS. AND SO IF YOU
HAVE TO ADMINISTER IT. THEN YOU
SHOULD BE DOING IT THE RIGHT WAY
RATHER THAN IN A WAY THAT IS
UNDIGNIFIED- SO THIS WILL GO TO
APPROPRIATIONS THERE IS A COST
ASSOCIATED WITH IT- YOU KNOW I
KNOW THERE'S A WHOLE THING ABOUT
UNFUNDED MANDATES- IN ONCE AGAIN
THE ADMINISTRATORS SOMETHING FOR
CDC ARE TO WORK OUT YOU KNOW MY
GOAL IS NOT TO BE A MICROMANAGER
AS IT RELATES TO THE-
ADMINISTRATIVE LOGISTICS AND
PROCEDURES OF WHAT HAPPENS
INSIDE. THIS IS ABOUT PROVIDING
DIRECTION SO THAT FOLKS HAVE
ACCESS TO DIGNIFIED AND HUMANE
CARE WHEN THEY HAVE A SERIOUS
ILLNESS WHEN THEY ARE ON DEATH'S
DOOR WHEN THEY ARE WHEN THEY
HAVE A SERIOUS MEDICAL EMERGENCY
OR CONDITION THAT IS UPON THEM.
SO I AM ABSOLUTELY IN AGREEMENT
WITH THE WITH THE INTENT OF THE
BILL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
SEEING IT. I'M I'M AN OBSCENE
RIGHT NOW JUST BECAUSE I WANNA
MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
CONTINUOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH
THE STAKEHOLDERS TO ADDRESS SOME
OF THESE CONCERNS. BECAUSE I
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BUT I DO
BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT.
THAT WE UPDATE THE SYSTEM SO
THAT YOU KNOW- PEOPLE WHO ARE
INCARCERATED IN THEIR- AT THEIR
LAST. SHOULD BE I HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR CLOSURE WITH
THEIR FAMILY SO- I WANT THE
FAMILY MEMBERS KNOW THAT I AM
SUPPORT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE
THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT LANGUAGE-
IN PLACE SO. THANK YOU. THANK
YOU ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
ORANGE RETURNS RUSHES. AND MOVED
BY SENATORS THANK YOU SENATOR
WIENER I JUST WANT THINK AGAIN
SENATOR COME WATER FOR THIS
MEASURE I KNOWLES. CHALLENGES
HERE AND THE LATE OPPOSITION BY-
C. THE SIXTY P. O. A. I. GET ON
MY L. MIXED UP BUT- AND I KNOW
IT'S GONNA BE A BURDEN IS SO TO
SPEAK BUT UNLESS THERE'S A WHOLE
LOT OF SICK PEOPLE IN PRISON
RIGHT NOW THAT ARE BEING
NEGLECTED I DON'T SEE THIS AS
BEING A MAJOR. BUDGETARY IMPACT
WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS JUST
SIMPLE NOTIFICATION- THAT ONE IS
SICK AND ALONG THE VISITATION SO
I DON'T SEE THAT AS A MAJOR
FISCAL IMPACT TO THEIR OVERALL
OPERATIONS SO I DO THINK IT'S-
LEVINE JUST DOING THE JOB AND-
NOTIFYING FAMILY AS YOU WOULD DO
ON ANY OTHER SITUATIONS. WITH
THAT NOTE WE HAVE A MOTION BY
SENATOR SKINNER WOULD YOU LIKE
TO CLOSE. THANK YOU MISTER CHAIR
I JUST WANNA SAY YOU KNOW- MY
GRANDMOTHER WAS- CLOSE TO BEING
IN HOSPICE SHE WAS ON CARS RATED
- SHE DIED. SHE WAS ILL. SHE WAS
OLDER SHE HAD A LOT OF SICKNESS-
AND WE WERE NOTIFIED. WE WERE
TOLD WE NEEDED TO BE THERE WE
WERE TOLD WE NEEDED TO CONTACT
THE PASTOR WE WERE TOLD WHEN SHE
WHEN WAS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE
EMERGENCY SERVICES. OR SURGERY.
AND IF THAT HADN'T HAPPENED
THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN HELL TO
PAY FOR SURE. BY THOSE FOLKS
FROM MY FAMILY THAT IS. ALL THIS
BILL REALLY SAYS. IS THAT THE
DIGNITY THAT WAS AFFORDED TO MY
FAMILY WITH MY GRANDMOTHER WHEN
SHE WAS DYING WOULD BE AFFORDED
TO ANYBODY ELSE WAS DYING. WAS
GOING TO SURGERY WHO MAY DIE-
IT'S JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO
AND IF WE ARE GOING TO OFFER ANY
KIND OF HEALTH CARE. IN OUR
PRISON SYSTEM. WE SHOULD BE
AFFORDING FAMILIES THE RIGHT TO
HAVE SOME PARTICIPATION. IN A
LOVED ONE'S SERIOUS MEDICAL
PROCEDURE FOR IN THEIR DEATH.
THAT IS ALL THIS BILL SAYS. I
RESPECTFULLY ASK RIVAL. THANK
YOU WE HAVE A MOTION- WE HAVE A-
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. ON SO
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON S. B.
ELEVEN THIRTY NINE. SB ELEVEN
THIRTY NINE BRADFORD AYE
BRADFORD AYE CHOI BOGUE.
TROUBLED NOT VOTING COM LONGER.
COME UNDER ICE SKINNER. SKINNER
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MEASURES OUT FOR VOTES
CONGRADULATIONS CENTER. CALM
WATER NOW WE'RE GOING TO LIFT
THE- FALLS ON. HOW ITEMS- IT CAN
CALENDAR. COM LOGGER I CALLER
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YOU CAN TO HAS FIVE THAT
MEASURES OUT SB NINE NINETY
HUESO COM LONGER COMMA- I'D
FORTY ZERO SB FOUR NINETY FOUR
THE ZERO THAT EASURES OUT SB
TEN EIGHTY ONE RUBIO AS AMENDED
COM LONGER COME LONGER AYE
SKINNER SKINNER AYE FIVE ZERO
THAT MEASURE FIVE ZERO. AND S.
B. TWELVE TWENTY THREE BACKER
WIENER. WIENER I. AND THAT'S IT
WAS A BOOK ON TWELVE TWENTY OH
SORRY FOUR ZERO FOUR ZERO THREE
TWELFTH TWENTY THREE FOUR ZERO
THAT MEASURES OUT. ALL RIGHT.
FOR WELL I WANT TO THANK
EVERYONE WHO TESTIFIED TODAY
EITHER IN PERSON OR OVER THE
TELEPHONE LINE- YOUR TESTIMONY-
IT WAS VITALLY IMPORTANT IF YOU
WERE NOT ABLE TO TESTIFY TODAY
FOR ANY REASON PLEASE SUBMIT
YOUR COMMENTS OR SUGGESTIONS ARE
RIDING TO THE SENATE PUBLIC
SAFETY COMMITTEE OR VISIT OUR
WEBSITE YOUR COMMENTS AND YOUR
SUGGESTIONS ARE IMPORTANT TO US
AND WE WANT TO INCLUDE YOUR
TESTIMONY AND THE FISHER HEARING
RECORDS THANK YOU FOR YOUR
PARTICIPATION WE PRE EMPT THANK
YOU AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR
PARTICIPATION TODAY AND WHEN I
THANK EVERYONE FOR YOUR PATIENCE
AND OPERATIONS. AND THAT WILL
CONCLUDE OUR TODAY'S AGENDA FOR
THE SENATE PUBLIC SAFETY
COMMITTEE WE STAND ADJOURNED.
THANK.